[AT] Weekend issues

Mon Sep 19 19:59:15 PDT 2016

Mike,

Being an old man, I get concerned about weight. Yes, it would work.

Thanks
Dennis

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> On Sep 19, 2016, at 9:14 PM, Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
> 
> Dennis, to borrow on Farmer's idea, what if you were to make a 
> sandwiched beam with (2) 2 x 8's screwed together with a plywood center 
> as a stiffener? Like a load bearing header.
> 
> Mike M
> 
> 
>> On 9/19/2016 7:40 PM, Dennis Johnson wrote:
>> Farmer,
>> 
>> I agree that there are many solutions to this, engineered wood (but they would not like rain or elements), store bought aluminum ramps if I locked them in place, steel ramps, and combinations of wood and steel. Custom cut from a mill with full 2" thickness might be the best option if I can find a mill and take some time to go get them. Maybe it is time to switch to 2 X 12 boards but will need to carry them on edge because I do not want to have mower offset too much to the side.
>> 
>> What is frustrating is that I have used 2 X 8 or 2 X 10's for 20 plus years to load LAWN MOWERS. That is why Cecil's comment about good wood going outside the USA got me to thinking that he may have a valid point. I switched to 2 X 10's when I got mowers a little bit heavier than what I had 20 years ago. Every 5 to 10 years something happens and I need to replace the wood. The center support method has some issues on dealing with truck and trailer suspension flex. When I have something a bit heavier (like my Bolens 1502H) I had done the center support blocks.
>> 
>> I like this method because they are reasonably light, cheap, weather resistant if treated. They are quick to put up and down. And I have a post welded to the trailer and a hole in one end of the ramp where I can just put them down over the pin and drive off with no worry. I have not had problems with anyone trying to steal a board.
>> 
>> Another thing that bothers me is that the new board has about 1 inch of extra deflection compared to the old 2 X 10 that has aged 3 or 4 years.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Dennis
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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>>> On Sep 19, 2016, at 3:27 PM, Indiana Robinson <robinson46176 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If I wanted wood ramp boards I think I would consider laminated engineered
>>> lumber. Really strong stuff and no weak points.
>>> If I ever was suspicious of loading boards / weight combinations I reduced
>>> their length by half with blocks under the middle but with a warning.
>>> Blocking under the middle can make one end or the other lift (and move) at
>>> the end like at the truck bed. To prevent that movement the middle blocks
>>> should be low enough that the middle of the boards can flex down a couple
>>> of inches before contacting the support blocks. That keeps weight on both
>>> ends of the board.
>>> I needed a shortish pair of ramps for loading my Cub several years ago so I
>>> made them out of a couple of pieces of light-ish "I" beam cut from a
>>> removable mobile home hitch and used them flat. I cut a couple of 12"
>>> pieces of an old "U" steel fence post and welded them across one end of
>>> each ramp cup down. That sits on a support across the back of several
>>> trailers. They will also work to roll logs onto my little Woodmizer sawmill
>>> (if I ever get a chance to use it).
>>> The Cub weighs about 1,800 pounds and it does not flex the ramps. They are
>>> maybe 5' long.
>>> I have not shown anything for several years but I think I can next year. I
>>> finally completely quit the Atorvastatin and the Zetia both and at long
>>> last actually feel like I am really healing. The Atorvastatin (Lipitor) was
>>> really destructive on muscle tissue along with a whole basket-full of other
>>> bad side effects. The Zetia was causing severe shortness of breath. My
>>> regular Dr. is quite open minded about treatments but the cardiac folks all
>>> seem to be playing a one string banjo... It largely involves a bad case of
>>> denial of any side effects of those two drugs.If I croak more quickly from
>>> not taking them it will still be better than the life I was living with the
>>> side effects...
>>> I could have asked son Scott to haul a tractor to a show and he has in the
>>> past but he does a huge amount to keep us going as it is. He and I did
>>> visit 3 nearby shows this summer together.
>>> I saw a quote on-line this morning: "Sometimes it takes me all day to
>>> accomplish nothing."  :-)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> .
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 1:07 PM, <tmehrkam at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> You need to borrow better equipment. :-}
>>>> 
>>>>    On Monday, September 19, 2016 8:44 AM, Cecil Bearden <
>>>> crbearden at copper.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sounds like the typical quality problems we endure these days. Cover the
>>>> bottom of those ramps with a 1/8 sheet of steel or aluminum and they
>>>> will hold together.  All the good lumber in the US is shipped
>>>> overseas.  We get the crap.  Those senders were probably made in China
>>>> or India.  Parts houses don't carry the fittings they used to.  Hardware
>>>> stores are the best bet on that now...
>>>> 
>>>> Cecil in Okla
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 9/19/2016 12:42 AM, Dennis Johnson wrote:
>>>>> All
>>>>> 
>>>>> The last few days I have been hit with stupid little stuff.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Borrowing my son's V10 Ram to haul some mowers to Okla. leaving 2 there
>>>> with someone and hauling my Hustler back after doing some mowing there.
>>>>> V10 failed an oil pressure sender Wednesday near Ennis Tx. Changed it
>>>> out in parts store parking lot, which was not fun on hot engine. This
>>>> morning on the way to church the replacement sender also failed, putting a
>>>> small stream of oil out the electrical connection, just like the first one
>>>> did. Got replacement under warranty, but went to 6 places looking for 1/8
>>>> NPT 45 elbow and could not find. Want to move sensor so I can get a wrench
>>>> or sender socket on it. Finally found short nipple and coupling that should
>>>> move it away from block slightly. Tomorrow morning will try to install the
>>>> second sensor when engine is cool before I start it.
>>>>> Yesterday I snapped one of the blade spindle housings in two pieces on
>>>> my Hustler Fastrack SD mower. Was able to fine some replacement parts just
>>>> before store closed. Was able to finish mowing this afternoon.
>>>>> This weekend the 2 X 10 ramps I use to load mower failed near a knot
>>>> hole. Friday I got a new 2 X 10, and it snapped in two pieces on Saturday.
>>>> Yesterday got a second replacement on that also.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dennis
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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