[AT] Tractors and other stuff...

Fri Dec 9 15:37:29 PST 2016

I'll take your word for it! Around here anything green goes for more 
money--whether its newer or older. It's largely due to marketing. You 
may be right about no market due to aging collectors. I have a feeling 
that a lot of us are going to wind up with tractors worth a lot less 
than what they were back in the 90's.

I just listed dad's thresher for sale and have had no interest.  If it 
doesn't sell I may tow it to the scrapyard come springtime--horrible 
thing to do to a running machine but when there are no buyers there is 
no alternative. Can't find any antique clubs interested in it. The last 
few years our antique club existed, practically no one would watch us 
thresh, folks just were not interested.

John Hall

On 12/8/2016 11:08 PM, Dean VP wrote:
> John,
>
> I don' know about your area but the market for antique tractors is quite
> soft where I get exposed to it.  The 39 and 40 B's are probably the least
> desired JD letter Series tractors for reasons that may be phony but they
> exist.  The 39 and 40 hand start B wasn't a huge change from the late
> unstyled JD B's and some call then an unstyled B with styled tin.  Only a 3
> speed transmission and high gear isn't high enough to take on a tractor
> ride. However, I own two 1940 B's but they are a bit unique in that they
> both have Electric Lights and Electric Starting.   They are little more
> desired as collector tractors because JD only manufactured them with those
> options in the Model year 1940. 1939 and 1940 Hand Start B's could be
> retrofitted to have those features after purchase. However, JD did not
> record in their manufacturing records how many were built in that
> configuration. It is estimated only approximately 5%  of the 1939 and 1940 B
> have Eclectic Lights and/or Electric Starting.  Those configured like that
> have a little higher market value than the Hand Start versions.
>
> In the case of Spencer's B,  a significant part of the marker value is
> heavily influenced by the relatively new tires. With tires needing
> replacement, its market value would be even lower.  New tires have become a
> very significant portion of a tractor's value.  Market value varies quite a
> bit around the US with the Eastern US typically being the highest.  When
> agricultural commodity prices were almost double what they are now, the
> Midwest farm wealth was heavily influencing antique tractor values. Now with
> the commodities at half the price there isn't as much disposable income
> being thrown at antique tractors and associated equipment.  Even the Toy
> market is soft compared to a few years ago.   Even the so called rare.
> Limited production and/or limited configurations have taken a hit but not as
> much as the "Plain Jane" tractors.
>
> Then there is another major influence and that is those born and raised in
> the 1930's - 1950's era are starting to die off. Without as many follow on
> collectors to replace them. The New generation tractors, 1961 on have become
> a major portion of the current collectors interest.
>
> Dean VP
> Snohomish, WA 98290
>
> It's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
>
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>
> I didn't know you could buy anything GREEN and running for that cheap!
> Maybe markets are softening? I never see them on CL so I can't offer any
> trends from there. There have been a couple Farmall H's that look in similar
> condition for around $1,200-1,600 that have been for sale for a while now on
> CL. Maybe this is one of those times its not JUST about the money, how about
> getting him to make you an offer--if its way more than you really need you
> can always counter with a lower offer--you'd both feel good about the deal
> then!
>
> John Hall
>
>
> On 12/8/2016 9:09 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:
>> Thanks Dean, I was thinking $1500 myself. Maybe I'm a little high? I
> thought a few pictures would be nice too, so here they are.  The folks that
> go to Portland have seen it a few times:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Spencer Yost
>>
>>> On Dec 8, 2016, at 7:41 PM, Dean VP <deanvp at att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would suggest $1000 to $1,500.  The 39 models are not the most
>>> desired collector letter Series tractors and fully restored might
>>> Bring up to $2500
>>>
>>> Dean VP
>>> Snohomish, WA 98290
>>>
>>> It's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> Yost
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>>> Subject: [AT] Tractors and other stuff...
>>>
>>> I have an older neighbor, who is really nice guy and loves old
>>> tractors. He is on several of his life, and loves to help me bale
>>> hay. In fact the last few cuttings I have not even been able to
>>> operate my own equipment. I just pick up a bales - he operates them
>>> for me :-)
>>>
>>> He wants to buy my John Deere B. Since he is older and in poor health
>>> I want to sell this to him.  I know he would really appreciate it,
>>> love it, and take care of it.
>>>
>>> It's a 1939  in  original, unmolested condition with flat spoke
>>> wheels, a leaking radiator and good tires. Other than that there's
>>> nothing special (or
>>> bad) about it.
>>>
>>> While I don't want to take a bath on it, I want to give him a very,
>>> very good price. What would you folks recommend?
>>>
>>> PS:   There is a list member with experience with the Dodge Ram
> eco-diesel.
>>> If that person could reply to me, off list if necessary, I have a few
>>> questions.   Thanks!
>>>
>>> Spencer Yost
>>>
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