[AT] Tractors and other stuff...

[Dean VP]

John,

I don' know about your area but the market for antique tractors is quite
soft where I get exposed to it.  The 39 and 40 B's are probably the least
desired JD letter Series tractors for reasons that may be phony but they
exist.  The 39 and 40 hand start B wasn't a huge change from the late
unstyled JD B's and some call then an unstyled B with styled tin.  Only a 3
speed transmission and high gear isn't high enough to take on a tractor
ride. However, I own two 1940 B's but they are a bit unique in that they
both have Electric Lights and Electric Starting.   They are little more
desired as collector tractors because JD only manufactured them with those
options in the Model year 1940. 1939 and 1940 Hand Start B's could be
retrofitted to have those features after purchase. However, JD did not
record in their manufacturing records how many were built in that
configuration. It is estimated only approximately 5%  of the 1939 and 1940 B
have Eclectic Lights and/or Electric Starting.  Those configured like that
have a little higher market value than the Hand Start versions. 

In the case of Spencer's B,  a significant part of the marker value is
heavily influenced by the relatively new tires. With tires needing
replacement, its market value would be even lower.  New tires have become a
very significant portion of a tractor's value.  Market value varies quite a
bit around the US with the Eastern US typically being the highest.  When
agricultural commodity prices were almost double what they are now, the
Midwest farm wealth was heavily influencing antique tractor values. Now with
the commodities at half the price there isn't as much disposable income
being thrown at antique tractors and associated equipment.  Even the Toy
market is soft compared to a few years ago.   Even the so called rare.
Limited production and/or limited configurations have taken a hit but not as
much as the "Plain Jane" tractors. 

Then there is another major influence and that is those born and raised in
the 1930's - 1950's era are starting to die off. Without as many follow on
collectors to replace them. The New generation tractors, 1961 on have become
a major portion of the current collectors interest.

Dean VP
Snohomish, WA 98290

It's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6. 

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I didn't know you could buy anything GREEN and running for that cheap! 
Maybe markets are softening? I never see them on CL so I can't offer any
trends from there. There have been a couple Farmall H's that look in similar
condition for around $1,200-1,600 that have been for sale for a while now on
CL. Maybe this is one of those times its not JUST about the money, how about
getting him to make you an offer--if its way more than you really need you
can always counter with a lower offer--you'd both feel good about the deal
then!

John Hall


On 12/8/2016 9:09 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:
> Thanks Dean, I was thinking $1500 myself. Maybe I'm a little high? I
thought a few pictures would be nice too, so here they are.  The folks that
go to Portland have seen it a few times:
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> Spencer Yost
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>> On Dec 8, 2016, at 7:41 PM, Dean VP <deanvp at att.net> wrote:
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>> I would suggest $1000 to $1,500.  The 39 models are not the most 
>> desired collector letter Series tractors and fully restored might 
>> Bring up to $2500
>>
>> Dean VP
>> Snohomish, WA 98290
>>
>> It's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Spencer 
>> Yost
>> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 5:01 PM
>> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> Subject: [AT] Tractors and other stuff...
>>
>> I have an older neighbor, who is really nice guy and loves old 
>> tractors. He is on several of his life, and loves to help me bale 
>> hay. In fact the last few cuttings I have not even been able to 
>> operate my own equipment. I just pick up a bales - he operates them 
>> for me :-)
>>
>> He wants to buy my John Deere B. Since he is older and in poor health 
>> I want to sell this to him.  I know he would really appreciate it, 
>> love it, and take care of it.
>>
>> It's a 1939  in  original, unmolested condition with flat spoke 
>> wheels, a leaking radiator and good tires. Other than that there's 
>> nothing special (or
>> bad) about it.
>>
>> While I don't want to take a bath on it, I want to give him a very, 
>> very good price. What would you folks recommend?
>>
>> PS:   There is a list member with experience with the Dodge Ram
eco-diesel.
>> If that person could reply to me, off list if necessary, I have a few
>> questions.   Thanks!
>>
>> Spencer Yost
>>
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