[AT] Tractors and other stuff...

Paul L Waugh paul at plwaugh.com
Fri Dec 9 16:36:10 PST 2016


Sad but morel likely right, I know the older I get the less I do. My son 
likes the old tractors and engine, but has NO interest in them.

Paul _ IN


On 12/9/2016 6:37 PM, John Hall wrote:
> I'll take your word for it! Around here anything green goes for more
> money--whether its newer or older. It's largely due to marketing. You
> may be right about no market due to aging collectors. I have a feeling
> that a lot of us are going to wind up with tractors worth a lot less
> than what they were back in the 90's.
>
> I just listed dad's thresher for sale and have had no interest.  If it
> doesn't sell I may tow it to the scrapyard come springtime--horrible
> thing to do to a running machine but when there are no buyers there is
> no alternative. Can't find any antique clubs interested in it. The last
> few years our antique club existed, practically no one would watch us
> thresh, folks just were not interested.
>
> John Hall
>
>
> On 12/8/2016 11:08 PM, Dean VP wrote:
>> John,
>>
>> I don' know about your area but the market for antique tractors is quite
>> soft where I get exposed to it.  The 39 and 40 B's are probably the least
>> desired JD letter Series tractors for reasons that may be phony but they
>> exist.  The 39 and 40 hand start B wasn't a huge change from the late
>> unstyled JD B's and some call then an unstyled B with styled tin.  Only a 3
>> speed transmission and high gear isn't high enough to take on a tractor
>> ride. However, I own two 1940 B's but they are a bit unique in that they
>> both have Electric Lights and Electric Starting.   They are little more
>> desired as collector tractors because JD only manufactured them with those
>> options in the Model year 1940. 1939 and 1940 Hand Start B's could be
>> retrofitted to have those features after purchase. However, JD did not
>> record in their manufacturing records how many were built in that
>> configuration. It is estimated only approximately 5%  of the 1939 and 1940 B
>> have Eclectic Lights and/or Electric Starting.  Those configured like that
>> have a little higher market value than the Hand Start versions.
>>
>> In the case of Spencer's B,  a significant part of the marker value is
>> heavily influenced by the relatively new tires. With tires needing
>> replacement, its market value would be even lower.  New tires have become a
>> very significant portion of a tractor's value.  Market value varies quite a
>> bit around the US with the Eastern US typically being the highest.  When
>> agricultural commodity prices were almost double what they are now, the
>> Midwest farm wealth was heavily influencing antique tractor values. Now with
>> the commodities at half the price there isn't as much disposable income
>> being thrown at antique tractors and associated equipment.  Even the Toy
>> market is soft compared to a few years ago.   Even the so called rare.
>> Limited production and/or limited configurations have taken a hit but not as
>> much as the "Plain Jane" tractors.
>>
>> Then there is another major influence and that is those born and raised in
>> the 1930's - 1950's era are starting to die off. Without as many follow on
>> collectors to replace them. The New generation tractors, 1961 on have become
>> a major portion of the current collectors interest.
>>
>> Dean VP
>> Snohomish, WA 98290
>>
>> It's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of John Hall
>> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 8:16 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [AT] Tractors and other stuff...
>>
>>
>> I didn't know you could buy anything GREEN and running for that cheap!
>> Maybe markets are softening? I never see them on CL so I can't offer any
>> trends from there. There have been a couple Farmall H's that look in similar
>> condition for around $1,200-1,600 that have been for sale for a while now on
>> CL. Maybe this is one of those times its not JUST about the money, how about
>> getting him to make you an offer--if its way more than you really need you
>> can always counter with a lower offer--you'd both feel good about the deal
>> then!
>>
>> John Hall
>>
>>
>> On 12/8/2016 9:09 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:
>>> Thanks Dean, I was thinking $1500 myself. Maybe I'm a little high? I
>> thought a few pictures would be nice too, so here they are.  The folks that
>> go to Portland have seen it a few times:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Spencer Yost
>>>
>>>> On Dec 8, 2016, at 7:41 PM, Dean VP <deanvp at att.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would suggest $1000 to $1,500.  The 39 models are not the most
>>>> desired collector letter Series tractors and fully restored might
>>>> Bring up to $2500
>>>>
>>>> Dean VP
>>>> Snohomish, WA 98290
>>>>
>>>> It's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Spencer
>>>> Yost
>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 5:01 PM
>>>> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>> Subject: [AT] Tractors and other stuff...
>>>>
>>>> I have an older neighbor, who is really nice guy and loves old
>>>> tractors. He is on several of his life, and loves to help me bale
>>>> hay. In fact the last few cuttings I have not even been able to
>>>> operate my own equipment. I just pick up a bales - he operates them
>>>> for me :-)
>>>>
>>>> He wants to buy my John Deere B. Since he is older and in poor health
>>>> I want to sell this to him.  I know he would really appreciate it,
>>>> love it, and take care of it.
>>>>
>>>> It's a 1939  in  original, unmolested condition with flat spoke
>>>> wheels, a leaking radiator and good tires. Other than that there's
>>>> nothing special (or
>>>> bad) about it.
>>>>
>>>> While I don't want to take a bath on it, I want to give him a very,
>>>> very good price. What would you folks recommend?
>>>>
>>>> PS:   There is a list member with experience with the Dodge Ram
>> eco-diesel.
>>>> If that person could reply to me, off list if necessary, I have a few
>>>> questions.   Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Spencer Yost
>>>>
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