[AT] OFF Topic: 4 month Verizon WAR

David Rotigel rotigel at me.com
Fri Sep 4 06:51:29 PDT 2015 

TWITTER! Now THERE is a GREAT source for news!
	Dave

On Sep 4, 2015, at 9:15 AM, David Bruce <davidbruce at yadtel.net> wrote:

> If I found another way to see live sports I would totally cut the cord. 
> That is my one thing that keeps me with cable. Breaking News I now get 
> via Twitter (which is much more breaking but often less accurate so 
> there is a tradeoff there).  Broadcast News is always superficial and 
> most always biased either intentionally or not - I guess that is the 
> human condition.
> 
> David
> NW NC
> 
> On 9/4/2015 7:45 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>> Again, Mike M and I are 100% in agreement.  I enjoyed his comments about
>> "news" these days.
>> 
>> Have you ever had something significant happen locally, big enough to make
>> the Big Four national news?  I've seen this at least a few times
>> (typically, weather events; we've had a couple that were the lead story on
>> the national news).  Since it's local, I naturally have a pretty decent
>> picture of what's really going on.  Every single time, the national news
>> report is superficial, hitting only a fraction of the details that would be
>> needed to present something like a comprehensive picture.  I know they have
>> time constraints but each and every time they could have told a decent
>> story in the time alotted; instead what came out is just the shocking
>> "entertaining" details which tell a very distorted version of the real
>> story.  It is reasonable to believe that every single story is the same -
>> there is NO comprehensive responsible journalism in the news.
>> 
>> I am politically pretty neutral, and I am bothered by most news sources,
>> which almost always have a bias, typically either a subtle liberal slant or
>> a strong conservative slant.  One of the news sources I tend to like these
>> days, which makes a real effort to focus on facts and responsible
>> journalism, is called The Conversation.  It's much more oriented toward
>> news analysis, versus useless up-to-the-minute "late breaking news!" sound
>> bites.
>> 
>> https://theconversation.com/us
>> 
>> 
>> SO
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 7:04 PM, Mike <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I've never felt better than after cutting the cord, I don't care what's
>>> on TV because I watch so little of it. If you're the type that thinks
>>> you are actually getting news from any of the major outlets, then you
>>> are fooling yourself, and that includes FOX news, which I used to watch.
>>> Having two people on with opposing viewpoints and watching them talk
>>> over each other for 10 minutes is not news, it's crap. If you can't find
>>> independent sources for news on the internet, then you are part of the
>>> problem in my opinion.  Just remember the editor chooses what to run, so
>>> you are letting one person decide what you see and what you hear.
>>> 
>>> Mike M
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 9/2/2015 10:08 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>>>> I'm with Mike M!  Over the 12 years I've lived in my current home, we've
>>>> been back and forth with DirecTV, cable TV, brief periods with both, and
>>>> now for the last couple years, none of the above.  The future of home
>>>> entertainment is streaming from the Internet.  We use the cable now for
>>>> nothing but Internet service which is somewhere around $60 a month.  And
>>> we
>>>> pay $8 a month for Hulu Plus.  (Seems like almost everyone does Netflix,
>>>> but somehow we get along fine with just Hulu.)  We don't have rooftop
>>>> antenna, because according to some website that analyzes your terrain
>>>> versus the signals from local towers, I'd need a really tall mast and a
>>>> fancy amplified antenna to grab about two channels.  I guess I live in a
>>>> hole.
>>>> 
>>>> The huge upside to streaming, that I have not heard anyone mention yet,
>>> is
>>>> that the whole Internet acts effectively as your DVR.  You can watch
>>>> anything the Internet offers, and unlike either cable or satellite DVR's,
>>>> there's no need to decide upfront what you want to record.
>>>> 
>>>> Downside to streaming is pro sports.  Or at least so I am told.  I'm not
>>> a
>>>> fan of any conventional sports like baseball or football or basketball
>>> so I
>>>> can't say for sure but I hear that it's either expensive or impossible to
>>>> stream sports.  I think that's where the rooftop antenna comes in.  And
>>> you
>>>> can get fairly inexpensive DVR's for antennas these days (TiVo OTA for
>>> $50
>>>> and $15 a month subscription fee).
>>>> 
>>>> SO
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 11:50 PM, Mike <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> As I said before Charlie, I recently cut the cord, and couldn't be
>>>>> happier. I have a roof top antennae, ($40) , and I have have Netflix and
>>>>> Hulu, each $8.00 per month. We have not run out of stuff to watch, and
>>>>> were quite frankly getting sick of the PC crap the networks were
>>>>> cramming down our throats. My wife gets up early for work, and by the
>>>>> time we get evening chores done, we have about 1 hour for TV. It will be
>>>>> years before we run out of content, if ever. It saved me about $1000 per
>>>>> year, that's  a nice tractor implement each year. :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mike M
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 9/1/2015 7:16 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>>>> Steve,  I threatened to leave Dish Network off and on for years
>>>>>> and they would never do anything to help me.  I called and
>>>>>> asked for some new equipment and they refused to supply that.
>>>>>> I was there customer for probably 20 years or close to it myself.
>>>>>> Finally they sent me a letter telling me they were changing their
>>>>>> satellites and my equipment wouldn't work any longer.  I called them
>>>>>> and told them the only way I would agree to their changes was if they
>>>>>> did something about the amount of money I was paying them. It had
>>>>>> gone up over the years from about 70 bucks to over 100.  They kept
>>>>> wanting
>>>>>> to come and put in new equipment.  I refused unless they would cut the
>>>>>> price down to something close to what they were offering to new
>>>>> customers.
>>>>>> They wouldn't budge.  Finally the day came when channels started not
>>>>>> working.
>>>>>> I called them up and cancelled my service.  They begged me to stay but
>>>>> never
>>>>>> would offer to lower the price.  After I cut them off they started
>>>>> trying to
>>>>>> induce me to come back.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I was going to switch to Direct TV for a couple of years but now with
>>>>> AT&T
>>>>>> buying them
>>>>>> out I'm not sure I want to go there either.   I've got access to fiber
>>>>> optic
>>>>>> cable but
>>>>>> for what I had with Dish Network on Cable would cost me over $150.00 a
>>>>> month
>>>>>> and I still
>>>>>> wouldn't be watching more than about 20 channels.  They structure their
>>>>>> "packages" so that
>>>>>> you can't get all of what you want in a certain category without
>>> buying a
>>>>>> high end package.
>>>>>> It's ridiculous.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Steve W.
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:18 PM
>>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] OFF Topic: 4 month Verizon WAR
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> charlie hill wrote:
>>>>>>> I've recently dropped Dish Network for the same reason.
>>>>>>> My problem is, the few stations I do want to watch are only
>>>>>>> available on satellite or cable and some of them aren't even
>>>>>>> on our local cable.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>> Many shows are available online as well.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have Dish here but hardly watch it I was all set to cancel it but
>>> told
>>>>>> the wife it was up to her as she watches a few shows. She called to
>>>>>> cancel and shocked the company, "You've been with Dish for over 20
>>>>>> years"!!  We can't let you go, how about we drop the price by $30.00 a
>>>>>> month...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've switched to watching shows online. Fewer commercials and you can
>>>>>> pause it when you wish.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I just started watching Downton Abbey. Great show IF you know some
>>>>>> history. It follows an English aristocratic family from just prior to
>>>>>> WWI as they deal with the changes around them.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> LOTS of other shows out there as well as entire networks
>>>>>> 
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