[AT] now Heart concerns

Mogrits mogrits at gmail.com
Sun Feb 22 07:21:04 PST 2015


That's a broad brush you are painting with there, Stephen. My family
physician is about my age, and his primary focus with my family and I
assume his other patients is to keep me healthy. He reads quite a bit about
preventative medicine and keeps himself up to date. I know this because he
never fails to scratch out a website link on a scrap of paper for me to
read and try to implement. He is working as hard as I am to get me off BP
meds and on certain targeted natural and vitamin supplements like vitamin D
and fish and garlic oil. He detests insurance as well as obamacare and
gives a huge discount for cash paying customers.

Not all Doctors are as you describe.

Warren

On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Stephen Offiler <soffiler at gmail.com> wrote:

> Doctors exist to fix broken people.  Until you are broken, they sit back
> and watch you break yourself with bad choices such as smoking, drinking,
> bad diet, insufficient fresh air and sunlight and exercise.  Doctors get
> close to zero nutrition training in school.  They are not oriented towards
> coaching you to do the right things to preserve health while you've got it;
> they fix problems once they arise.  Their actions are largely controlled by
> the insurance companies.  Doctors live in mortal fear of malpractice suits
> and everything they do is intended to make sure they appease the insurance
> companies so they don't lose their malpractice coverage.  And the rest of
> what they do is dictated by those other insurance companies, health
> insurance.  Doctors do what they will be reimbursed for.
>
> SO
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Dave Rotigel <rotigel at me.com> wrote:
>
> > I think the best advice is to follow your doctor's advice--OR get a new
> > doctor!
> >         Dave
> > I always liked the doctor I had years ago. His first question was ALWAYS
> > "Are you still smoking 4 packs of Pall Malls a day?" I would answer
> "Yes",
> > and he would mutter "a$$hole", amd then go on with the yearly exam. Best
> > doctor I ever had, and he now, has retired.
> >
> > On Feb 21, 2015, at 3:11 PM, Indiana Robinson wrote:
> >
> > > This one is a bit of a downer. Sorry. Spring needs to get here so we
> can
> > do
> > > something tractor.
> > > :-)
> > > My heart is not my biggest worry. A pulmonologist recently told me that
> > he
> > > wanted to make all of his patients live to be 100... Now that is scary
> to
> > > me. Much of my family has generally had fairly long life spans going
> way
> > > back, discounting those that were killed by stuff like lightning or a
> > > couple that drowned in the Ohio River at Evansville IN.
> > > My main worry is that my somewhat recent family tree is a veritable
> > > fountain of Alzheimer's and dementia.
> > > Both of my parents suffered from Alzheimer's in their later years. My
> > > father was the lucky one of the two. He died of congestive heart
> failure
> > > after only a few bad years of it. My mother on the other hand had it so
> > bad
> > > and so long (10+ years) that I say that she rode the Alzheimer's train
> > all
> > > of the way to the end and then crashed through the stop bumpers and
> > smashed
> > > into the station... She remained in decent physical health until she
> > could
> > > no longer remember how to breath or pump blood. My father had 3 sisters
> > and
> > > all three died of long drawn out Alzheimer's (his only brother died a
> > > little younger from a bad heart). My maternal grandfather had
> Alzheimer's
> > > as well but like my father, died of heart problems after  a few years.
> > His
> > > grandmother spent her last days committed to a mental institution from
> > > dementia.
> > > I only have one sibling, a sister who is 3 years older than I am. She
> has
> > > just reached the point that they can not leave her alone in the
> house...
> > > So far I have dodged that bullet (other than long term CRS and a
> tendency
> > > to ramble). I'm not sure why.  I just keep checking the grounds...  :-)
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Francis Robinson
> > > aka "farmer"
> > > Central Indiana USA
> > > robinson46176 at gmail.com
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