[AT] now Heart concerns

Dave Rotigel rotigel at me.com
Sun Feb 22 08:22:48 PST 2015


I would sure second that, Warren!
	Dave
PS, I even know an MD who owns an antique tractor! (Now back on topic!)

On Feb 22, 2015, at 10:21 AM, Mogrits wrote:
> 
> Not all Doctors are as you describe.
> 
> Warren
> 
> On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Stephen Offiler <soffiler at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Doctors exist to fix broken people.  Until you are broken, they sit back
>> and watch you break yourself with bad choices such as smoking, drinking,
>> bad diet, insufficient fresh air and sunlight and exercise.  Doctors get
>> close to zero nutrition training in school.  They are not oriented towards
>> coaching you to do the right things to preserve health while you've got it;
>> they fix problems once they arise.  Their actions are largely controlled by
>> the insurance companies.  Doctors live in mortal fear of malpractice suits
>> and everything they do is intended to make sure they appease the insurance
>> companies so they don't lose their malpractice coverage.  And the rest of
>> what they do is dictated by those other insurance companies, health
>> insurance.  Doctors do what they will be reimbursed for.
>> 
>> SO
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Dave Rotigel <rotigel at me.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I think the best advice is to follow your doctor's advice--OR get a new
>>> doctor!
>>>        Dave
>>> I always liked the doctor I had years ago. His first question was ALWAYS
>>> "Are you still smoking 4 packs of Pall Malls a day?" I would answer
>> "Yes",
>>> and he would mutter "a$$hole", amd then go on with the yearly exam. Best
>>> doctor I ever had, and he now, has retired.
>>> 
>>> On Feb 21, 2015, at 3:11 PM, Indiana Robinson wrote:
>>> 
>>>> This one is a bit of a downer. Sorry. Spring needs to get here so we
>> can
>>> do
>>>> something tractor.
>>>> :-)
>>>> My heart is not my biggest worry. A pulmonologist recently told me that
>>> he
>>>> wanted to make all of his patients live to be 100... Now that is scary
>> to
>>>> me. Much of my family has generally had fairly long life spans going
>> way
>>>> back, discounting those that were killed by stuff like lightning or a
>>>> couple that drowned in the Ohio River at Evansville IN.
>>>> My main worry is that my somewhat recent family tree is a veritable
>>>> fountain of Alzheimer's and dementia.
>>>> Both of my parents suffered from Alzheimer's in their later years. My
>>>> father was the lucky one of the two. He died of congestive heart
>> failure
>>>> after only a few bad years of it. My mother on the other hand had it so
>>> bad
>>>> and so long (10+ years) that I say that she rode the Alzheimer's train
>>> all
>>>> of the way to the end and then crashed through the stop bumpers and
>>> smashed
>>>> into the station... She remained in decent physical health until she
>>> could
>>>> no longer remember how to breath or pump blood. My father had 3 sisters
>>> and
>>>> all three died of long drawn out Alzheimer's (his only brother died a
>>>> little younger from a bad heart). My maternal grandfather had
>> Alzheimer's
>>>> as well but like my father, died of heart problems after  a few years.
>>> His
>>>> grandmother spent her last days committed to a mental institution from
>>>> dementia.
>>>> I only have one sibling, a sister who is 3 years older than I am. She
>> has
>>>> just reached the point that they can not leave her alone in the
>> house...
>>>> So far I have dodged that bullet (other than long term CRS and a
>> tendency
>>>> to ramble). I'm not sure why.  I just keep checking the grounds...  :-)
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> 
>>>> Francis Robinson
>>>> aka "farmer"
>>>> Central Indiana USA
>>>> robinson46176 at gmail.com
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