[AT] just a rant

[jtchall at nc.rr.com]

I've only got one forum that I am active on. Most of the time folks are 
civil but occasionally those that are the most knowledgeable can get 
grouchy. I've also found one of the "knowledgeable" ones that is a pure 
smarta%$ more times than not. He likes to scream "you are wrong therefore an 
idiot" before he checks the facts. Funny thing is when you call him out and 
present facts to back yourself up, he shuts up and goes away, speaks volumes 
regarding his character.

John


-----Original Message----- 
From: Mattias Kessén
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 4:42 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] just a rant

That is why I mostly stay away from forums...

Mattias

www.rodjagard.n.nu

2015-02-19 19:32 GMT+01:00 Cecil R Bearden <crbearden at copper.net>:

> Deere 4010-4020 sure was a good tractor to put a loader on..   You had a
> reverse handy in every gear range.  All the others, you had one or 2
> reverses and they were so slow you could not really use the tractor for
> loading and getting any real production...  I have an Oliver 1850 and a
> White 2-105 really the same tractor and the reverse is slow and they are
> both so hard to shift they are terrible as a loader tractor.
> Cecil in OKla
>
>
> On 2/19/2015 5:20 AM, jtchall at nc.rr.com wrote:
> > Only a pure fool would think his "brand" is superior across the board. 
> > My
> > dad spent 20 some years working for an IH dealer. Sold a gazillion Cub
> > Cadets. Any day of the week I'll mow a prettier lawn with and old Deere
> than
> > an old Cadet. When you do as most of the list members do (repairing and
> > restoring old iron) it should become real evident what was or wasn't a
> great
> > design. If you can't see that, you probably don't need to be turning
> > wrenches in the first place.
> >
> > For whatever reason we switched to Deere in the 60's for big HP. After
> > growing up on a pair of 4020's and a 4430, I knew what to expect from
> them.
> > Dad had a 706 or 806 at the shop working on it one day. I climbed up on
> it
> > and realized it was the most ridiculous laid out tractor concerning the
> > controls I had ever seen. Nothing was as convenient as a 4020. The flip
> side
> > of that is Deeres famous 2 cylinders--- loud, obnoxious, jerky, and not
> laid
> > out very well as opposed to IH tractors of the time. Both paint colors
> had
> > their faults, but they also managed to put in many years in the field
> which
> > to me says they are well built. We didn't have many other color tractors
> in
> > the area due to dealer support, so I can't speak regarding those.
> >
> > For the record, we collect primarily IH. We use IH and Deere.
> >
> > John Hall
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Edchainsaw at aol.com
> > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:39 AM
> > To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > Subject: [AT] just a rant
> >
> > I recently tried to correct some missinformation on the  Oliver 
> > Facebook
> > page.    Was told several times I was  not of a  stable mind needed to
> take
> > my  Biased views elsewhere.  now am in  a Facebook war with idiots ----
> yes
> > I couldn't back down....    and  yes I being the Adult I maybe should
> have;
> > but then again I think  adults should stop KIDS from acting like this.
> >
> >
> > I dont like the name calling stuff and I especially  HATE when someone
> > tells me one brand is TOTALLY SUPERIOR---  gee they all made  mistakes.
> >
> > That's what I like about you all on here I aint caught that from any of
> > you--- now a good natured rub once in a while that's gonna happen.
> >
> > PLEASE dont let the 'idiots'  take control... Stop this kinda  stuff .
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