[AT] Osage vs. Firestone

[Charlie V]

Dean has it correct on the balance issue with slime.  About the first thing
the label instructions tell you is that it is for off road tires only for
just that reason.  I have a can if it that is good for about one mid size
tire. It takes quite a lot for larger tires and there is a chart to tell
how many ounces are required for various tire sized.  I have never used it
but read the instructions every time I think about putting it in
something.  It is intended for tread area injuries only, so Dean.s fronts
probably qualify there.  Not sure about the tube issue.  Must rotate the
tire for a while after putting Slime in the tire to get it evenly
distributed all the way around the inside.  Does it then set in place???
Or does it stay somewhat fluid to seal future punctures???  the full
instructions are no doubt on line if no one knows all of the answers.

I am thinking that if all of the thorns are not removed from the tires now,
they will keep eating at the tubes just as a nail would so no matter what
is done the problems will exist.

Charlie V.

On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Dean VP <deanvp at att.net> wrote:

> Dean,
>
> I'll add a little humor to this. Have you considered going to steel wheels
> on your tractors?   Is
> there no way to police around the trees manually somehow prior to tractor
> traffic?  Or is there just
> too many?   I have no experience with Slime or that kind of sealant and I
> don't know if that works on
> tubed types. I would think it would slow down the instances of slow
> leaking tires.   I have this issue
> with my Garden Tractor tires and get leaks due to Black Berry bush
> thorns.  I've cleaned out most of
> the black berry bushes and at times I think I have gotten them all until
> one comes along and bites me
> in the butt.  However, it hasn't happened often enough to cause me to
> resort to the slime routine.
> I've become an expert at removing and re-installing the little front
> tires(16x7.50-8) on my Garden
> tractor. Which are a real PITA. The smaller the tire the harder they are
> to work with. I've not had
> the same problem with my rear tires on the Garden Tractor. And I have come
> up with no other
> explanation other than they are larger/wider tires. Must have a thicker
> carcass or more plys or
> something. The tread isn't any deeper in fact I've put new fronts on and
> still using the original
> rears.  I would think higher # of ply/steel ply tires would be more
> resistant to the thorn issue. That
> may be the real solution.  How many ply tires do you have on the fronts?
>
> On a slow speed tire I guess something like slime might work but have no
> experience. I would worry
> about it on a high speed road vehicle tire relative to balance issues.
>
> Dean VP
> Snohomish, WA
>
> The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing at the
> right time, but also to leave
> unsaid  the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
> Dean Vinson
> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 5:50 PM
> To: 'Antique tractor email discussion group'
> Subject: [AT] Osage vs. Firestone
>
> Those *@#&! osage orange trees... much as I can't help but admire their
> durability and defense mechanisms, I'd just as soon have fewer of them to
> deal with.   At some point in the five weeks since I put new front tires on
> the JD 620, two tiny thorns managed to puncture one of them and leave me
> with a slow leak.   I couldn't even see them until I took the wheel off the
> tractor and studied it up close, and even then couldn't find anything that
> looked like a leak until I dunked the whole thing in water.   Guess I
> should
> be grateful for the many that apparently didn't make it through to the
> innertube but still left tiny little splinters in the new tire.
>
> It'll be many years, if ever, before I have the little osage trees beaten
> back to where I won't be mowing around/over them anymore.   Anyone have any
> recommendations for/against something like Slime or Gempler's Ultraseal?
> Does that stuff work with tubed tires?
>
> Thanks very much--
>
> Dean Vinson
> Saint Paris, Ohio
>
>
>
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