[AT] Case diesel

[Cecil R Bearden]

Charlie:
Thanks for reminding me about those Detroits!!!    You only have to hold 
the rag within 2 ft of the air intake for it to work on them....!!

Cecil


On 4/14/2012 11:25 PM, charlie hill wrote:
> Cecil,  I've seen the gas on a rag trick used many times and have done it
> myself a time or two but you have to be careful not to put too much gas on
> the rag.   I was on a logging job once.  The loader ran out of fuel and they
> were having a hard time getting the 4-53 Detroit to pick up the fuel again.
> The mechanic soaked a red shop rag with gas and put it over the air intake.
> The Detroit fired up and proceeded to turn what seemed to be about 4000 rpm
> for a few seconds before the gas ran out.  In the process it blew the tips
> off of 2 injectors.
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cecil R Bearden
> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 11:02 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Case diesel
>
> Most of the old Case diesels had 2 filters.  They both looked alike, and
> were different by one number in WIX.  It was easy to get the primary and
> secondary mixed up.   The only way to tell was the catalog listing of
> the filter listed one as a water separator, and the other as a
> filter.    I have had several cases where the fuel gauge did not work
> correctly on a truck or tractor, and got stuck some distance from
> home.   I soak a large rag in gasoline, and then hold it over the air
> intake while cranking.  be sure you do not have the glow plugs connected
> when doing this.  The gas will start without very much knocking, and it
> will keep it running until the fuel hits the injectors.    I had an 1155
> Massey with the v-8 Perkins.  The priming pump was worn out, and it took
> a slim guy with a 3 ft arm to get between the lines and into the valley
> between the heads to work the pump.  When it was hot, it really was
> hot...!!   Gas on a rag would start it great.   Gas on a rag starts my
> old Cat D6 after sitting a year.
>
>     I was some distance away from the old office with a 2003 Sterling, w/
> 3126 Cat motor.  The fuel pump was pulling from the right tank and
> overflow was going into the left tank.  The gauge was in the left
> tank...The equalizer worked as a siphon, but the line had a pinhole.  .
> There was a TA truck stop about 1/4 mi away.   I bought a roll of paper
> towels and a gas can.  Then filled the 1 gal can with gas.    I stuck
> the trailer brake hose in the left tank, cut off a 4 inch "ring" of
> towels from the towel roll, and pulled out the cardboard center.  Then I
> stuffed the towel "ring" around the brakes hose to seal it in the fuel
> tank filler.  I flipped the brake valve in the truck to pressurize the
> tank and fill the right tank....  After getting about 20 gallon in the
> right tank, I opened the hood and poured about a pint of gas into the
> paper air cleaner air inlet.  It picked up fuel in about a minute and no
> damage occurred.    If I had called a mechanic, I would have been there
> a couple of hours and then had to explain a $200 bill.
>
>    I use gas and a rag a lot....
>
> Cecil in oKla
>
> On 4/14/2012 8:55 PM, john hall wrote:
>> Thanks for the input guys. I'll loosen the lines at the injectors next
>> time
>> and see if it helps. I pulled up a parts breakdown and still don't see any
>> way to bleed the pump. I'll carry a backup battery, we have no means of
>> towing the tractor where it is. I didn't see any type of fuel pump, just
>> the
>> injection pump. I'm still not happy with the flow to the pump compared to
>> what goes into the filter--it almost seems restricted somehow. It will be
>> Tues or Wed. before I can get back to look at it again, I'll let you know
>> how it goes.
>>
>> John
>>
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