[AT] Case diesel

[charlie hill]

Cecil,  I've seen the gas on a rag trick used many times and have done it 
myself a time or two but you have to be careful not to put too much gas on 
the rag.   I was on a logging job once.  The loader ran out of fuel and they 
were having a hard time getting the 4-53 Detroit to pick up the fuel again. 
The mechanic soaked a red shop rag with gas and put it over the air intake. 
The Detroit fired up and proceeded to turn what seemed to be about 4000 rpm 
for a few seconds before the gas ran out.  In the process it blew the tips 
off of 2 injectors.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Cecil R Bearden
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 11:02 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Case diesel

Most of the old Case diesels had 2 filters.  They both looked alike, and
were different by one number in WIX.  It was easy to get the primary and
secondary mixed up.   The only way to tell was the catalog listing of
the filter listed one as a water separator, and the other as a
filter.    I have had several cases where the fuel gauge did not work
correctly on a truck or tractor, and got stuck some distance from
home.   I soak a large rag in gasoline, and then hold it over the air
intake while cranking.  be sure you do not have the glow plugs connected
when doing this.  The gas will start without very much knocking, and it
will keep it running until the fuel hits the injectors.    I had an 1155
Massey with the v-8 Perkins.  The priming pump was worn out, and it took
a slim guy with a 3 ft arm to get between the lines and into the valley
between the heads to work the pump.  When it was hot, it really was
hot...!!   Gas on a rag would start it great.   Gas on a rag starts my
old Cat D6 after sitting a year.

   I was some distance away from the old office with a 2003 Sterling, w/
3126 Cat motor.  The fuel pump was pulling from the right tank and
overflow was going into the left tank.  The gauge was in the left
tank...The equalizer worked as a siphon, but the line had a pinhole.  .
There was a TA truck stop about 1/4 mi away.   I bought a roll of paper
towels and a gas can.  Then filled the 1 gal can with gas.    I stuck
the trailer brake hose in the left tank, cut off a 4 inch "ring" of
towels from the towel roll, and pulled out the cardboard center.  Then I
stuffed the towel "ring" around the brakes hose to seal it in the fuel
tank filler.  I flipped the brake valve in the truck to pressurize the
tank and fill the right tank....  After getting about 20 gallon in the
right tank, I opened the hood and poured about a pint of gas into the
paper air cleaner air inlet.  It picked up fuel in about a minute and no
damage occurred.    If I had called a mechanic, I would have been there
a couple of hours and then had to explain a $200 bill.

  I use gas and a rag a lot....

Cecil in oKla

On 4/14/2012 8:55 PM, john hall wrote:
> Thanks for the input guys. I'll loosen the lines at the injectors next 
> time
> and see if it helps. I pulled up a parts breakdown and still don't see any
> way to bleed the pump. I'll carry a backup battery, we have no means of
> towing the tractor where it is. I didn't see any type of fuel pump, just 
> the
> injection pump. I'm still not happy with the flow to the pump compared to
> what goes into the filter--it almost seems restricted somehow. It will be
> Tues or Wed. before I can get back to look at it again, I'll let you know
> how it goes.
>
> John
>
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