[AT] Off topic but tractor related

charlie hill charliehill at embarqmail.com
Thu Jul 8 19:18:45 PDT 2010 

David,  the field peas we are talking about are not exactly the same thing 
as black eyed peas.   What Al is talking about is sure enough soul food. 
A plate full of field peas, some sliced cucumbers in cider vinegar, a pone 
of cornbread and a glass of tea or milk.  That's a poor folks feast.

Charlie

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From: "David Bruce" <davidbruce at yadtel.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 8:53 PM
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related

> I use black eyed peas from the grocery store (not my favorite. or I can
> find seed at the usual hang outs - independent hardware, feed, feed and
> seed, etc.
>
> Al reminded me I have 4 varieties growing this year (no black eyed peas).
>
>
> David
> NW NC
>
> On 7/8/2010 5:34 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>> Hi Al,  Do you know where I can get some field peas to plant?  They used 
>> to
>> grow volunteer on our layout land back in the soil bank days but when the
>> Nixon years and plant from hedge row to hedge row came along and then 
>> later
>> when folks started growing cotton about everything un-intended went away. 
>> I
>> don't know when I last saw field peas.  Is there another name for them?
>>
>> Charlie
>>
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>> From: "Al Jones"<farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 5:28 PM
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion 
>> group"<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related
>>
>>> Charlie, field peas would be a good late summer/early fall crop too.
>>>
>>> Al
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "charlie hill"<charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 4:55 PM
>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related
>>>
>>>> It was officially 99 here yesterday but I saw 100 on my truck 
>>>> thermometer
>>>> while driving down the road at 60 mph.    I was stopped with the engine
>>>> idling for a while talking to a fellow and it went to 111.  I realize
>>>> that
>>>> was engine heat but still.  Today it is cooler by about 10 to 15 
>>>> degrees
>>>> but
>>>> it's humid today and actually feels just as hot.
>>>>
>>>> I guess some sort of mixed greens would do well for a winter cover and 
>>>> I
>>>> like all of those things raw in a salad but I don't like the bitter
>>>> greens
>>>> cooked.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> From: "David Bruce"<davidbruce at yadtel.net>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 2:23 PM
>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related
>>>>
>>>>> I use a mixture of turnips, mustard, radish, rape and kale as my 
>>>>> winter
>>>>> covercrop for pat of the garden.  I like the greens and in addition I
>>>>> get the covercrop.
>>>>>
>>>>> My few potatoes didn't do squat, my onions are ready to harvest but 
>>>>> with
>>>>> near triple digit temps it won't happen today.  My unofficial
>>>>> thermometer reads 104 but it is usually + 5.
>>>>>
>>>>> Heard a noise and my Chow and I looked out.  She went to make sure the
>>>>> UPS man wasn't bothering my mom and I said "no way".  Hot, humid and 
>>>>> by
>>>>> these conditions should be late August.
>>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>> NW NC
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/8/2010 1:50 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>>>> Thanks David.  I'm not fond of turnips (at least the greens) or 
>>>>>> mustard
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> I'll probably pass on those.   Of course I could plant them just for
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> heck of it.   I am tempted to try some fall potatoes.  I'll look for
>>>>>> one
>>>>>> with some eyes and give it a try.  I don't have any certified potato
>>>>>> sets
>>>>>> but I have some I grew and I have some sulfur to coat them with.   I
>>>>>> planted
>>>>>> my onions late and with the dry weather they didn't do well.   The 
>>>>>> tops
>>>>>> were
>>>>>> big but limp.  They wouldn't stand up like they should.  The onions
>>>>>> (bulb)
>>>>>> didn't grow well and none of them ever reached a size bigger than a
>>>>>> golf
>>>>>> ball.  Then the strangest thing happened.  I noticed the tops were
>>>>>> dying
>>>>>> back so I decided to go ahead and dig them.  The next day I went out
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> almost all the tops were gone,  completely gone.    I dug up the 
>>>>>> onions
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> could find where there were some tops and dug up about half of the 
>>>>>> rest
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the row and never found a thing beyond the few tops I could see.
>>>>>> STRANGE.
>>>>>> I would say critters  got them but the row wasn't disturbed and there
>>>>>> were
>>>>>> no mole trails near the row.  I'm going to dig some more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hadn't thought about winter squash.  I don't really have a good 
>>>>>> spot
>>>>>> for a
>>>>>> garden here at the house.  Plenty of land but too many trees and it's
>>>>>> terribly sandy and dry here.  The farm is too far away for me to 
>>>>>> really
>>>>>> tend
>>>>>> to a garden there so I'm just experimenting here and trying to hone 
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> skills.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone know about Jerusalem Artichokes (different than regular
>>>>>> artichokes)?  It's kind of a sunflower type plant with a tuber root
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> edible.  It's not a fall crop. Just interested if anyone knows about
>>>>>> them.
>>>>>> Yes, late January is the time to plant onions here but I didn't get
>>>>>> them
>>>>>> in.
>>>>>> In March when I went to buy my seed potatoes they still had some 
>>>>>> onion
>>>>>> sets
>>>>>> and they were cheap so I decided to try them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> From: "David Bruce"<davidbruce at yadtel.net>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 1:26 PM
>>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion
>>>>>> group"<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Charlie,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My choices would be beans, squash (both summer and winter squash),
>>>>>>> cucumbers and later on (maybe late August) turnips and other greens
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> mustard.  Not sure about potatoes either but if you have room why 
>>>>>>> not?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lots of people here plant potatoes and onions in February so maybe
>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>> in January for you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>> NW NC
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/8/2010 12:41 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a question for the gardeners and farmers in the group,
>>>>>>>> particularly
>>>>>>>> those familiar with the growing season and conditions of coastal 
>>>>>>>> NC.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've been growing a small garden this year.  It's really an
>>>>>>>> experiment
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> see what I remember from my youth.  I haven't grown a garden beyond 
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> couple
>>>>>>>> of tomato plants in 30 years or more.
>>>>>>>> So far my experiment has done ok.  My potatoes were a 
>>>>>>>> disappointment
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> that was the result of a very dry spring.  The potatoes I got were
>>>>>>>> nice
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> healthy but there just weren't many of them.
>>>>>>>> Only 2 or 3 per hill.  They have been dug now as have my onions 
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>> do well at all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My question is what plants can I plant now and into the late summer
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> get a
>>>>>>>> late summer or fall crop?   I've got lots of tomatoes growing now 
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> are starting to ripen nicely.  I've got squash and sweet potatoes
>>>>>>>> coming
>>>>>>>> along and some beans I planted late just to see what they would do.
>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>> are starting to flower now.   But I want to use the potato and 
>>>>>>>> onion
>>>>>>>> plot
>>>>>>>> for some sort of fall crop.  Preferably something that cans well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any suggestions?  I considered trying another potato crop.  I think
>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> enough growing season left but I can't find any reference online to
>>>>>>>> fall
>>>>>>>> potato crops.  I'm thinking some cucumbers would work.   When I was 
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> kid
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>> planted two cucumber crops a year.  Who has an idea?  It doesn't
>>>>>>>> usually
>>>>>>>> frost here until at least mid October.  I'm on high sandy loam so
>>>>>>>> soil
>>>>>>>> moisture is my biggest concern.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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