[AT] Off topic but tractor related

Thu Jul 8 17:53:48 PDT 2010

I use black eyed peas from the grocery store (not my favorite. or I can 
find seed at the usual hang outs - independent hardware, feed, feed and 
seed, etc.

Al reminded me I have 4 varieties growing this year (no black eyed peas).

David
NW NC

On 7/8/2010 5:34 PM, charlie hill wrote:
> Hi Al,  Do you know where I can get some field peas to plant?  They used to
> grow volunteer on our layout land back in the soil bank days but when the
> Nixon years and plant from hedge row to hedge row came along and then later
> when folks started growing cotton about everything un-intended went away.  I
> don't know when I last saw field peas.  Is there another name for them?
>
> Charlie
>
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> From: "Al Jones"<farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 5:28 PM
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related
>
>> Charlie, field peas would be a good late summer/early fall crop too.
>>
>> Al
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "charlie hill"<charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 4:55 PM
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related
>>
>>> It was officially 99 here yesterday but I saw 100 on my truck thermometer
>>> while driving down the road at 60 mph.    I was stopped with the engine
>>> idling for a while talking to a fellow and it went to 111.  I realize
>>> that
>>> was engine heat but still.  Today it is cooler by about 10 to 15 degrees
>>> but
>>> it's humid today and actually feels just as hot.
>>>
>>> I guess some sort of mixed greens would do well for a winter cover and I
>>> like all of those things raw in a salad but I don't like the bitter
>>> greens
>>> cooked.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "David Bruce"<davidbruce at yadtel.net>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 2:23 PM
>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related
>>>
>>>> I use a mixture of turnips, mustard, radish, rape and kale as my winter
>>>> covercrop for pat of the garden.  I like the greens and in addition I
>>>> get the covercrop.
>>>>
>>>> My few potatoes didn't do squat, my onions are ready to harvest but with
>>>> near triple digit temps it won't happen today.  My unofficial
>>>> thermometer reads 104 but it is usually + 5.
>>>>
>>>> Heard a noise and my Chow and I looked out.  She went to make sure the
>>>> UPS man wasn't bothering my mom and I said "no way".  Hot, humid and by
>>>> these conditions should be late August.
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>> NW NC
>>>>
>>>> On 7/8/2010 1:50 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>>> Thanks David.  I'm not fond of turnips (at least the greens) or mustard
>>>>> so
>>>>> I'll probably pass on those.   Of course I could plant them just for
>>>>> the
>>>>> heck of it.   I am tempted to try some fall potatoes.  I'll look for
>>>>> one
>>>>> with some eyes and give it a try.  I don't have any certified potato
>>>>> sets
>>>>> but I have some I grew and I have some sulfur to coat them with.   I
>>>>> planted
>>>>> my onions late and with the dry weather they didn't do well.   The tops
>>>>> were
>>>>> big but limp.  They wouldn't stand up like they should.  The onions
>>>>> (bulb)
>>>>> didn't grow well and none of them ever reached a size bigger than a
>>>>> golf
>>>>> ball.  Then the strangest thing happened.  I noticed the tops were
>>>>> dying
>>>>> back so I decided to go ahead and dig them.  The next day I went out
>>>>> and
>>>>> almost all the tops were gone,  completely gone.    I dug up the onions
>>>>> I
>>>>> could find where there were some tops and dug up about half of the rest
>>>>> of
>>>>> the row and never found a thing beyond the few tops I could see.
>>>>> STRANGE.
>>>>> I would say critters  got them but the row wasn't disturbed and there
>>>>> were
>>>>> no mole trails near the row.  I'm going to dig some more.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hadn't thought about winter squash.  I don't really have a good spot
>>>>> for a
>>>>> garden here at the house.  Plenty of land but too many trees and it's
>>>>> terribly sandy and dry here.  The farm is too far away for me to really
>>>>> tend
>>>>> to a garden there so I'm just experimenting here and trying to hone my
>>>>> skills.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know about Jerusalem Artichokes (different than regular
>>>>> artichokes)?  It's kind of a sunflower type plant with a tuber root
>>>>> that
>>>>> is
>>>>> edible.  It's not a fall crop. Just interested if anyone knows about
>>>>> them.
>>>>> Yes, late January is the time to plant onions here but I didn't get
>>>>> them
>>>>> in.
>>>>> In March when I went to buy my seed potatoes they still had some onion
>>>>> sets
>>>>> and they were cheap so I decided to try them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> From: "David Bruce"<davidbruce at yadtel.net>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 1:26 PM
>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion
>>>>> group"<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic but tractor related
>>>>>
>>>>>> Charlie,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My choices would be beans, squash (both summer and winter squash),
>>>>>> cucumbers and later on (maybe late August) turnips and other greens
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> mustard.  Not sure about potatoes either but if you have room why not?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lots of people here plant potatoes and onions in February so maybe
>>>>>> even
>>>>>> in January for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David
>>>>>> NW NC
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/8/2010 12:41 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a question for the gardeners and farmers in the group,
>>>>>>> particularly
>>>>>>> those familiar with the growing season and conditions of coastal NC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've been growing a small garden this year.  It's really an
>>>>>>> experiment
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> see what I remember from my youth.  I haven't grown a garden beyond a
>>>>>>> couple
>>>>>>> of tomato plants in 30 years or more.
>>>>>>> So far my experiment has done ok.  My potatoes were a disappointment
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> that was the result of a very dry spring.  The potatoes I got were
>>>>>>> nice
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> healthy but there just weren't many of them.
>>>>>>> Only 2 or 3 per hill.  They have been dug now as have my onions that
>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>> do well at all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My question is what plants can I plant now and into the late summer
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> get a
>>>>>>> late summer or fall crop?   I've got lots of tomatoes growing now and
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> are starting to ripen nicely.  I've got squash and sweet potatoes
>>>>>>> coming
>>>>>>> along and some beans I planted late just to see what they would do.
>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>> are starting to flower now.   But I want to use the potato and onion
>>>>>>> plot
>>>>>>> for some sort of fall crop.  Preferably something that cans well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any suggestions?  I considered trying another potato crop.  I think
>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> enough growing season left but I can't find any reference online to
>>>>>>> fall
>>>>>>> potato crops.  I'm thinking some cucumbers would work.   When I was a
>>>>>>> kid
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> planted two cucumber crops a year.  Who has an idea?  It doesn't
>>>>>>> usually
>>>>>>> frost here until at least mid October.  I'm on high sandy loam so
>>>>>>> soil
>>>>>>> moisture is my biggest concern.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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