[AT] Real farmers problems - a discussion oflanduserelatedtofarming - was fuel problemsgetexpensive-perspectives andreactions

[charlie hill]

Al, that is particularly true with the beaver since there were no beavers in 
coastal NC until wildlife brought them here in the 70's (I can't prove that 
but it is a widely held belief around here)
Since the time they showed up they've destroyed countless dollars worth of 
timber and turned dry land into federally protected wetlands.   As best I 
can tell there is no reason or purpose for them in our ecosystem.   Big rats 
with big teeth and a flat tail.  Don't get me wrong.  I like to look at them 
but they are out of control.

Charlie

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From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 7:06 PM
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Subject: Re: [AT] Real farmers problems - a discussion 
oflanduserelatedtofarming - was fuel problemsgetexpensive-perspectivesandreactions> This is a sore subject with me, because like John mentions, we are overrun
> with deer, and the state of NC for the most part could care less. Yes,
> hunters fund wildlife management programs with hunting licenses, duck
> stamps, excises taxes on ammunition, etc.  That's the way it should be, 
> and
> I don't mind it.  I just wish they would also fund landowners and 
> motorists
> for their losses due to deer, beaver, and other wildlife damage with some 
> of
> that money.   In other words, the majority of the population shouldn't be
> over-run with overprotected species so that hunters can hunt.  I'll gladly
> let the deer destroy my crops, and collide with my vehicles, if the 
> wildlife
> commission will show up regularly with their checkbook!
>
> Al
>
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> From: "Phil Vorwerk" <pvorwerk at newulmtel.net>
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 3:09 PM
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> Subject: Re: [AT] Real farmers problems - a discussion of
> landuserelatedtofarming - was fuel problems 
> getexpensive-perspectivesandreactions> That's probably true, but I believe 
> the bulk of the WMA programs are
> funded
>> with hunting licenses and fees.
>>
>> Phil
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Al Jones
>> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 12:16 PM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Real farmers problems - a discussion of land
>> userelatedtofarming - was fuel problems get expensive-perspectives
>> andreactions
>>
>> There is a program where they want you to plant strips along the edge for
>> quail.  They pay the land owner a little bit for it.
>>
>> The problem with wildlife management & legislation in NC, and I expect in
>> most other states, is that it is centered around the best interests of 
>> the
>> wildlife and the best interests of the hunter.  All other citizens rights
>> are secondary.
>>
>> Al
>>
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>> From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 7:22 AM
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>> Subject: Re: [AT] Real farmers problems - a discussion of land use
>> relatedtofarming - was fuel problems get expensive
>> -perspectivesandreactions> John,  I've known some farmers around here to
>> plant a strip of pasture
>> along
>>> the wood line for the deer to graze on, hoping it would keep them out of
>>> the
>>> field.
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
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>>> From: "john hall" <jtchall at nc.rr.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 10:20 PM
>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
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>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Real farmers problems - a discussion of land use
>>> relatedto
>>> farming - was fuel problems get expensive -perspectives and reactions
>>>
>>>> We have a different problem here due to increased housing developments.
>>>> We
>>>> have an overpopulated deer population that is making it almost
>>>> impossible
>>>> to
>>>> grow anything, be it farm or merely garden. I had 24 deer on about 3
>>>> acres
>>>> of newly emerged soybeans last night. Plus the other 8 I saw in other
>>>> fields. You just can't shoot that many of the darn things. They have
>>>> even
>>>> gotten so bad we can only grow bearded wheat.
>>>>
>>>> John Hall
>>>>
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