[AT] gasoline

[Jim & Lyn Evans]

No he doesn't work for the government, he works for the renewable fuel
institute, which consists of farmers and ethanol producers as members.  It
is an organization just like the Pork Producers or the Beef Producers.
He is biased.  You don't have to believe him.  Just believe the facts, not
the lies propagated by the oil industry.

I am also biased.  I work for a equipment manufacturer that has done very
well because corn prices are up.  I have burned many 1000s of gallons of E10
in my life without problems.  I can also see the nearest ethanol plant from
my picture window.


Yes, a 1952 Farmall will run with 100% ethanol.  You will have to richen it
up some to counteract the less BTUs.  It will burn more fuel per hour.  If
you can bump the compression to about 10-1 or more it will run a lot better
as it will take advantage of the higher octane.  You may have to replace
some of the old rubber in the fuel system.

  

Henry Ford designed his model T to run on 100% ethanol.



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of dglass
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 6:48 PM
To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
Subject: Re: [AT] gasoline

I think I would believe the petroleum industry before I would believe 
this guy.  Does he work for the government?  The government does pay 
bloggers to fabricate their side of a story when the facts don't support 
it.   I think I would still buy gas without ethanol if I could get it.

On 12/30/2010 7:24 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote:
> A set of "facts" provided by the Renewable Fuel Institute? Now there is an
UNBIASED group FOR SURE! The studies that show ethanol is worth anything
positive come from GOVERNMENT funded/supported institutions.
> 	Dave
> PS, Sure you can trust the government--just ask an Indian!
> PPS, "Tax insentatives" are simply taxes that the government decides not
to collect. They are MUCH different that government
subsidies/welfare!
> PPPS, Will a 1952 Farmall start/run on 100% ethanol? (See, all this IS
tractor related!)
>
> On Dec 30, 2010, at 6:39 PM, Jim&  Lyn Evans wrote:
>
>> Read this.
>> http://www.ethanolrfa.org/exchange/entry/answering-ethanol-attacks/
>>
>> Yes, the facts to speak for themselves.
>>
>> Also, in the last 30 years, the oil industry has received over 130
billion
>> dollars in tax incentives.  Renewable fuels received $11 billion in that
>> same period.
>>
>> http://www.ethanolrfa.org/pages/ethanol-facts-economy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of D8RMAN at aol.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 10:20 PM
>> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> Subject: Re: [AT] gasoline
>>
>> Well I guess some will never know the truth either because they are not
>> smart enough to understand it or they have an agenda. The facts speak for
>> themselves.  Willard Smith, Yakima, WA.
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 12/29/2010 8:15:21 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
>> skoullar at ix.netcom.com writes:
>>
>>
>>
>> BS
>>
>> Landen Schooler
>> (Iowa corn&  soybean  farmer)
>>
>>
>> Sent from my tractor, in my cornfield.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: D8RMAN at aol.com
>> Sender:  at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 22:59:31
>> To:<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Reply-To: Antique tractor  email discussion group
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Subject: Re:  [AT] gasoline
>>
>> Using corn to make ethanol also raises our food costs.  Remember supply
and
>>
>> demand from business 101. Willard Smith, Yakima,  WA
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 12/29/2010 7:51:08 P.M. Pacific Standard  Time,
>> rotigel at me.com writes:
>>
>> Kinda  makes you wonder why  we don't drill for our own oil instead of
>> putting the  hard working  US farmers on a tax subsidized welfare program
>> called
>> "ethanol"   which simply lowers everyone's mpg's!
>> Dave
>>
>> On Dec 28,  2010, at  5:29 PM, Richard Fink Sr wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all how about some gas   costs state side. Here it just hit $3.19 was
>> $3.09
>>> sunday. All  grades  now have at least 10% ethnol in it.
>>> R Fink
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