[AT] gasoline

[Jon Fridgen]

I think Jim raises some excellent points here. The ethanol mandate came
about to replace MTBE as an oxygenate in gasoline. MTBE is a terrible
carcinogen.

I work for a large agricultural company and have seen a lot of these
"studies". Some good, some bad. From my own work in the area, I have found
that:
1) Ethanol did not contribute to the run-up in food/commodity prices that
occurred in 2008. It was largely due to the activity of the spec funds in
the commodity markets. The World Bank or FAO (or some other organization)
validated this as well.
2) New processing technologies (i.e, cold cook as used by Poet) are
exponentially reducing the energy required to produce the fuel as well as
the carbon footprint.
3) The land use change arguments raised by environmental groups are B.S.

What concerns me more than anything is the role some of these environmental
groups a playing in agricultural policy and in a few years will be directly
impacting our freedom to operate on agricultural lands.

-Jon

On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Jim & Lyn Evans <jevans at evanstoys.com>wrote:

> Read this.
> http://www.ethanolrfa.org/exchange/entry/answering-ethanol-attacks/
>
> Yes, the facts to speak for themselves.
>
> Also, in the last 30 years, the oil industry has received over 130 billion
> dollars in tax incentives.  Renewable fuels received $11 billion in that
> same period.
>
> http://www.ethanolrfa.org/pages/ethanol-facts-economy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of D8RMAN at aol.com
> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 10:20 PM
> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> Subject: Re: [AT] gasoline
>
> Well I guess some will never know the truth either because they are not
> smart enough to understand it or they have an agenda. The facts speak for
> themselves.  Willard Smith, Yakima, WA.
>
>
> In a message dated 12/29/2010 8:15:21 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> skoullar at ix.netcom.com writes:
>
>
>
> BS
>
> Landen Schooler
> (Iowa corn & soybean  farmer)
>
>
> Sent from my tractor, in my cornfield.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: D8RMAN at aol.com
> Sender:  at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 22:59:31
> To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Reply-To: Antique tractor  email discussion group
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Subject: Re:  [AT] gasoline
>
> Using corn to make ethanol also raises our food costs.  Remember supply and
>
> demand from business 101. Willard Smith, Yakima,  WA
>
>
> In a message dated 12/29/2010 7:51:08 P.M. Pacific Standard  Time,
> rotigel at me.com writes:
>
> Kinda  makes you wonder why  we don't drill for our own oil instead of
> putting the  hard working  US farmers on a tax subsidized welfare program
> called
> "ethanol"   which simply lowers everyone's mpg's!
> Dave
>
> On Dec 28,  2010, at  5:29 PM, Richard Fink Sr wrote:
>
> > Hi all how about some gas   costs state side. Here it just hit $3.19 was
> $3.09
> > sunday. All  grades  now have at least 10% ethnol in it.
> > R Fink
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Jon Fridgen
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