[AT] Sap is rising/good news and bad

charliehill charliehill at embarqmail.com
Sat Mar 14 20:29:08 PDT 2009


Sounds like some minor repairs will have you farming BIG!

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] Sap is rising/good news and bad


> So for the new old tractor seems to be doing ok.  I have used it just a
> little bit dragging a disk and it didn't blow up so that is a good sign!
> Worst thing about it so far is the shift linkage is worn and if you aren't
> careful it'll get caught in low range and reverse at the same time.  Then
> if you're lucky you can play with the range shifter and get it 
> straightened
> out, and if not you have to shut down and move the linkage back into the
> right place at the floorboard.
>
> Been calling it a '69 but checked the serial # and it's actually a '70
> model.  Last year for the 856 was '71 so it's one of the later ones.
>
> Al
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: charliehill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Date: 3/14/2009 3:28:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Sap is rising/good news and bad
>>
>> Al, that is something Mike should do at the Farm.  Have a Cane day.
>>
>> How is your new IH working out?
>>
>> Charlie
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 3:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Sap is rising/good news and bad
>>
>>
>> >A fellow in our neighborhood still make some syrup.  To me his last 
>> >batch
>> > wasn't as good--I think some of it might have scorched a little.
>> >
>> > My dad remembers his maternal grandfather making gallons of syrup from
>> > cane
>> > every year.  He said it was somekindofgood!  Back then that was the 
>> > main
>> > sweetener that people here in this part of the countryside had.
>> >
>> > Al
>> >
>> >
>> >> [Original Message]
>> >> From: charliehill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>> >> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> >> Date: 3/14/2009 2:09:14 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [AT] Sap is rising/good news and bad
>> >>
>> >> yeah he had the thing built on a trailer.  The main problem he had was
>> > they
>> >> couldn't get burners under it that would get it hot enough.
>> >>
>> >> Every year at the NC State Fair they have a cane syrup display up and
>> >> running for the entire week.  It's wood fired of course.  That pan is
>> >> probably as big or bigger than the one my friend built.
>> >>
>> >> Charlie
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "Bob McNitt" <nysports at frontiernet.net>
>> >> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> >> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:31 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [AT] Sap is rising/good news and bad
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Charlie,Wow! 8x16? No wonder he had trouble.
>> >> >
>> >> > Paul, don't feel bad. I know several people who tried their hand at
>> > making
>> >> > syrup at home with less-than-expected results. I blame it on some of
>> > those
>> >> > "farmette" on-line how-to web sites that post articles w/o ever
> trying
>> > the
>> >> > operations involved.
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> > From: "charliehill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>> >> > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> >> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> >> > Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:05 PM
>> >> > Subject: Re: [AT] Sap is rising/good news and bad
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> Bob the pan that my friend built was a big one.  More like 8' x 
>> >> >> 16'.
>> > He
>> >> >> didn't do to well making syrup.  He spent all that money on a pan
> and
>> >> >> fixed
>> >> >> up and old cane press.  Then he had a crop failure on his cane
> patch.
>> > I
>> >> >> don't know if he tried it again the next year or not.  His health
>> > turned
>> >> >> bad
>> >> >> about that time and he has since died after a long fight with
> cancer.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Charlie
>> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> >> From: "Bob McNitt" <nysports at frontiernet.net>
>> >> >> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> >> >> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> >> >> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:25 PM
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [AT] Sap is rising/good news and bad
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Henry's right ... w/o a sap pan, appropriate firebox and covered
>> > shelter
>> >> >>> bldg, you'll be wasting sap. As I recall, our pan was about 5x3.
> You
>> >> >>> might
>> >> >>> consider seeing if anyone nearby you is sugaring and review their
>> >> >>> operation.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> >>> From: "Henry Miller" <hank at millerfarm.com>
>> >> >>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> >> >>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> >> >>> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 11:23 AM
>> >> >>> Subject: Re: [AT] Sap is rising/good news and bad
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> If you haven't figguered out how/where you are going to boil the
> sap
>> >> >>>> don't
>> >> >>>> bother starting.   I learned this the hard way when I was 14. 
>> >> >>>> My
>> >> >>>> neighbor had the spouts, and buckets were easy to find.  Nobody
> had
>> >> >>>> anything useful for boiling sap.  We ended up with about 200
> gallons
>> > of
>> >> >>>> sap, and were dumping some for lack of storage!  (I'm not sure 
>> >> >>>> how
>> > much
>> >> >>>> we
>> >> >>>> dumped, I think we were collecting 10 gallons a day)
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> What we tried was a hot water bath canner on a barrel wood stove.
>> >> >>>> Never
>> >> >>>> got hot enough to boil anything despite plenty of dry wood to 
>> >> >>>> work
>> >> >>>> with.
>> >> >>>> I was told my friend's parents had tried boiling in the house a
> few
>> >> >>>> years
>> >> >>>> before, but the house got all sticky.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> You don't need everything now, but if you don't have a plan and
> all
>> > the
>> >> >>>> equipment on order, you could be wasting time.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Roy Morgan <k1lky at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>On Mar 13, 2009, at 11:04 PM, Paul Waugh wrote:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> I will try the copper pipe and screw. Thanks
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>Ask around the town. You may find someone who's got buckets full
> of
>> >> >>>>>the made-to-purpose spigots that simply tap into the hole, and
> who
>> >> >>>>>is
>> >> >>>>>not planning to use them now.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>You'll need some buckets, too.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>Note: about one barrel (50 gallons) of sap is needed for a gallon
> of
>> >> >>>>>syrup.  You'll need a big pile of sawmill scraps to feed the 
>> >> >>>>>fire.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>Roy
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>Roy Morgan
>> >> >>>>>k1lky at earthlink.net
>> >> >>>>>529 Cobb St.
>> >> >>>>>Groton NY, 13073
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
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