[AT] Sap is rising/good news and bad

[Bruce Moden]

Charlie,
It's the tree that would be in danger, not the people.  Copper sulfate will kill roots, alge, & clean up ponds (nolonger legal in NY)- so I guess the copper is the culprit.  The pans we used were not glvanized as I recall.
Bruce

--- On Sun, 3/15/09, charliehill <charliehill at embarqmail.com> wrote:

From: charliehill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
Subject: Re: [AT] Sap is rising/good news and bad
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Date: Sunday, March 15, 2009, 1:33 PM

Copper won't hurt humans.  Copper pots used to be common.  What did bother 
me was a syrup pan I saw on one web page that was made with Galvanized 
steel.  I don't think that's a good idea.  If the tree sap is acidic it

would react with the zinc and that could be really bad.
Think about it they make licqour stills with copper but NEVER with 
galvanized.

Charlie
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I think it has to do with volume, in order to make maple syrup you must boil 
down 10 gallons od sap for 1 gallon of syrup, with that volume of water 
vapor in your house is not good.
Someone on the thread mentioned "copper nails or pipe", it may be an
old 
wives tale, but they always told us a kids, that if you had a tree you 
didn't want to live you would drive a copper nail in it and it would die-
so 
I would be careful with copper.
Bruce

--- On Sat, 3/14/09, charliehill <charliehill at embarqmail.com> wrote:

From: charliehill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
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Date: Saturday, March 14, 2009, 11:26 PM

I can buy that with no problem Steve.  My mother never made syrup but she
used to make candy and it's pretty much the same thing.  You start with
sugar water and cook it down until it gets to the right consistency.


----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 6:13 PM
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> Bruce Moden wrote:
>> Some things mentioned that don't work very well,; don't try to
boil
>> the sap inside your house!  you will loosen up all your wall paper or
>> damage the dry-wall.  You can't boil sap in a "tank" or
pot on a
>> stove, you need a pan/tray with a large surface area to cause
>> evaporation & the fire should directly under the pan for enough
heat-
>> it ain't easy- but I never said it was! b.j.m.
>
> At the risk of being tagged a nut, My mother and myself have both made
> syrup inside the house in a standard pot on the gas burner. It's not
as
> easy as a continuous boiler unit but it can be done. You have to keep
> the sap in constant motion to keep from burning the syrup when it starts
> to turn. That is how it was done in many homes for YEARS until they
> devised the continuous process method.
>
> I will be working the next couple weeks on/off at a sap house running
> the cooker for a friend. He volunteers to run the sugaring process at a
> couple of local places. I run his place while he is out.
>
> -- 
> Steve
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