[Farmall] Farmall not starting---still!

Mon Aug 3 11:51:59 PDT 2009

John.  Sorry, I meant .020.   Yep, pretty sure I did it at the top of the exhaust stroke.  I could feel the air pushing out when my finger over the # spark plug hole.  Plus, I checked with the timing mark on the flywheel on the A.  

Now, I took the ballast resister in and check at the local Advance Auto, and it is resisting at 1.5 ohms.  I assume that means it is working.  

The old condenser in the magneto is bad, according to the service manager at Case-IH when he tested it.  

So from the ballast resister with the switch on it is feeding 12 volts to the coil and then from the coil it is feeding 12 volts to the points, with the points open.  

I am back to thinking there is a short somewhere.  Perhaps the condenser is shorting but I do not understand.  There is a screw and little clip in the back of the condenser on the engine side that I assume is there to hold the condenser steady.  I do not know why that would not short it out since it is a connection to the body of the condenser.

On the nonengine side, the condenser has a screw end that feeds through a piece of Bakelite to the outside.  I assume the Bakelite is an insulator.  Maybe the wire going from the screw end of the condenser to the base of the points is shorted, but I am getting juice at the points with the point open.  And, to make try to make sure this wire was not shorting, I added some elelectrical tape around it (in addition to its insulation) where it connects to the condenser.

Now will the new condenser for a magneto work with this set up?  That is 12 volts feeding to the points via the condenser.

Well, color me confused, but I hope some of this information means something to someone.

It has to be something!!

Larry H.   

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Gustafson" <gustafsonjohnc at wildblue.net>
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Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 12:43:13 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [Farmall] Farmall not starting---still!

I'm going to step in here and I am in seriously unknown territory but:  At 
least twice you have stated that the points were set at .20. That does seem 
excessive, nearly a quarter inch. I would think .020 would be a more 
reasonable number.  While you were sure that you hit TDC in setting up the 
distributor, are you sure??? Could you have set it at the top of the exhaust 
stroke? Not familiar with how Farmall did it , I am and will be learning, 
but timing marks referenced to the crank  will always line up on the exhaust 
stroke.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ebony51 at frontiernet.net>
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Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Farmall] Farmall not starting---still!

> Possible, but I matched the "R" on the distributor gear with the notch on 
> the other gear with the #1 cylinder just at top dead center of the 
> compression stroke...using both the mark on the flywheel and also by 
> taking hte spark plug out of #1 cylinder and putting a wire in and feeling 
> when it reached top dead center (or just a shade beyond...and double 
> checking to see where the timing mark wa on the flywheel).
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> Even if out of time, should not a I get a spark at the points?
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> Thanks
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> Larry
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roger Showers" <showersroger at yahoo.com>
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> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 5:33:58 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
> Subject: Re: [Farmall] Farmall not starting---still!
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> I MENT GOT IT OUT OF TIME
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> --- On Sun, 8/2/09, ebony51 at frontiernet.net <ebony51 at frontiernet.net> 
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> From: ebony51 at frontiernet.net <ebony51 at frontiernet.net>
> Subject: [Farmall] Farmall not starting---still!
> To: "Farmall/IHC mailing list" <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Date: Sunday, August 2, 2009, 9:43 PM
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> Well, I am still not the Farmall A started. No spark to points. I put on 
> new points and new condenser. Set ththe points at .20 and cleaned them. 
> Had the coil checked. Put in new distributor gear (old one had a chip in 
> it so the rotor had quite a bit play in it). Put a new magneto cap on it 
> (it is converted from magneto to 12 volts and the magneto is being used as 
> a distributor. Put a new wire from the end of the condenser to the base of 
> the points (that is a pain) thinking that it might have a short in it.
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> Finally quite tonight at 9:30. Any suggetions.
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> I have been messing with this thing off and an on now for a month.
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> Larry H.
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