[AT] Tire Orientation

[charlie hill]

I'm pretty sure that is what he will find if he runs it like that Steve.  I 
have a slightly different but related situation on one of my tractors.   One 
tire has water in it for ballast, the other does not since I had a flat 
fixed.  I should fill it but I mostly only use the tractor for mowing so I 
haven't worried about it but every now and then I hit some slick grass or 
something and it will spin that non ballasted wheel so free that you'd 
almost think the axle was broken.
The similarity of the two situations is that one side has a huge traction 
advantage over the other and as you said the power goes to that side.  I 
wouldn't think about trying to pull a bottom plow or harrow with it that 
way.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stephen Offiler" <soffiler at gmail.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] Tire Orientation


>I think Charlie makes a very good point.  The tractor has an open
> differential, so if there's a traction difference left to right, the
> one with lower traction gets all the power and it spins.  Like a car
> with no limited-slip differential, just a plain open differential,
> with one drive wheel on ice.  That wheel spins and the other one just
> sits there.
>
> Steve O.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 4:26 PM, charlie hill <chill8 at suddenlink.net> 
> wrote:
>> Steve, it's going to matter any time you are pulling any sort of a load 
>> on
>> loose or slick ground, grass etc.  I'd ask them to change it.  If they 
>> were
>> both backwards you would loose some ability to pull going forward but 
>> that's
>> about all.   With one right and one wrong the one in the correct 
>> orientation
>> will have a big traction advantage.
>>
>> Charlie
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "The Allen Family" <steveallen855 at centurytel.net>
>> To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 11:16 AM
>> Subject: [AT] Tire Orientation
>>
>>
>>> Quite a while back, I had a rim on my '48 JD A rot out--I posting
>>> something to
>>> that effect here on the list.  Well, after long searches and many
>>> distractions,
>>> I finally located a really good wheel, rim, and tire for $50.  The tire
>>> was
>>> actually brand new, and it didn't match the tires I had on the tractor
>>> (one of
>>> which was also bad).  So I had a local tire store find a matching, new
>>> tire and
>>> mount it on the (relatively) good original wheel.  All OK so far.
>>>
>>> The potential problem lies in that, when I came home last night to
>>> finally find
>>> everything back on the tractor, I discovered that the tire store had
>>> mounted
>>> the replacement tire to the old rim in the same orientation as the
>>> other one so
>>> that, with the wheels both on the tractor dish out, one tire is pointed
>>> backwards.
>>>
>>> Thus, my question is:  what effect, if any, will using the tractor in
>>> various
>>> activities with the tires thus oriented have?  I am *guessing* that the
>>> only
>>> problem will be one of uneven traction because of the opposing tread
>>> patterns,
>>> and I am *guessing* that this difference will only matter in tasks that
>>> require
>>> hard pulls, such as plowing, disking, and so forth (I don't do tractor
>>> pulls,
>>> but I hope to do some gardening).  I am *guessing* that this difference
>>> won't
>>> matter in tasks like brush-hogging, towing a wagon, or on pavement for
>>> travel.
>>>
>>> Are my *guesses* accurate, or do I need to call the guy back out for
>>> the hassle
>>> of changing the one tire around on its rim immediately?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> The "original" Steve Allen
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