[AT] Fw: 350 u Was now helpers

charlie hill chill8 at suddenlink.net
Tue Jul 29 04:37:52 PDT 2008


Roy I'll tackle the sandblast portion.  Be careful with that.  An industrial 
sized sandblaster will warp up the sheet metal and put too much profile 
(roughness) in it too unless you are pretty skilled at using it.  It will 
also be rough on your fireplace unless the fireplace was built with hard 
faced, fired brick.  If it's very old, soft brick be very careful.  Also, 
when you sandblast a machine that is assembled little bits of grit get into 
places you can't get them out of and can cause mechanical problems later on.

There are probably better and easier options for cleaning the old girl up. 
If you could put some pictures on a web site somewhere that we could see 
them it would help us advise you.

Run the tires as long as they will run.  If they go flat, they go flat. 
Once they go it will be time for the sandblaster when you try to clean up 
the chloride damage to the rims.
Go ahead and start a budget for some new tires.  What size are they?

You should be able to pull a 5 foot trail behind type brush hog.  Maybe a 
6'.  I'm not sure if the M4 has standard PTO or not.  That could be an 
issue.  Some older IH stuff has odd ball PTO.

Get an OEM IH manual if you can.  If not I&T will work.  They are just a 
little short on details sometimes.

You can rewire it with any kind of automotive wire.  If you are into correct 
restoration there are places that can furnish the old stuff.  I assume yours 
is cloth covered.
There are even places that can make a new wire harness for you if you want 
to spend the money.

Some of the other guys will have much more specific IH information and fill 
in details, etc.

Charlie Hill

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roy Morgan" <k1lky at earthlink.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] Fw: 350 u Was now helpers


>
> On Jul 28, 2008, at 9:12 PM, <oldiron62 at gmail.com>
> <oldiron62 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes she is quite the helper Roy, A big three years old.
>
> (Shorter reply than I had made up when my foot kicked the tenuous
> power cord to the computer and dumped it all):
>
> my 6-1/2 year old likes to type on the teletype machines I have.  I
> did start up the tractor with her a few days ago.. soon she may be
> starting it up by herself!
>
>
>> ...
>> Roy is the tractor your calling A W4 A 6 cyl tractor?  like A W40 ?
>> Oh I
>> would love to have A WK40
>
>
> I don't know much about tractors yet, or what a WK40 is.
>
> It's an International Harvester Corporation McCormick W-4.  Has 4
> cylinders, I am pretty sure.  20+ horsepower.  Has:
> - rear PTO
> - plow with lift hydraulics
> - no three point hitch - only drawbar on rear.
> - cracks in rear tires, and chloride in the tires.
> - 12 volt conversion electrical system (tin snips used to make new
> alternator fit!)
>
> I have LOTS of questions:
> - I think a sand blaster is in order.  Hopefully a heavy duty
> industrial one used (we also need to blast a big old fireplace.)
> - I assume o-rings are available to fix hydraulic leaks
> - what hydraulic fluid should I get to replace what's leaked out?
> - pins in draw bar are bent (presumably by running over big rocks): do
> I just whang them back more or less straight with the well known BFH
> (big foolish hammer)?
> - I got no manuals: are the I&T SHOP MANUALS from Intertec Publishing
> Corp the best idea to start with?
> - It has no roll bar: I'm not a hot rod, and the land we have is quite
> flat.  Just the same, I'd think about a roll bar.  would the plow
> frame support a top  piece big enough to be reliable?
> - former owner used Lead Substitute in very imprecise quantities -
> good idea?
> - Should I use regular gas?
> - I'd like to bush hog the 15 or so acres we have of grown-over
> pasture (All grass and weeds, no small trees yet), though for now I
> have a Cub Cadet with bush hog rear attachment.  Can I expect to find
> a bush hog for the W-4 at any reasonable price?
> - the rear tires are cracked (and have chains on for plowing).  Are
> they likely to fail soon?
> - what wire should I use to replace the old worn out stuff on the
> thing now.
> - any one in the Finger Lakes region of NY that I can apprentice with
> to learn more about this thing?
>
> oh the list will go on and on.
>
>
> Roy Morgan
> 13033 Downey Mill Rd
> Lovettsville, VA 20180
> k1lky at earthlink.net
>
> NEW address:
> 529 Cobb St.
> Groton NY, 13073
>
>
>
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