[AT] Hydrogen fuel

[charlie hill]

Hi George,  I seem to find roads that only go up hill!  By  the way I think 
I can prove that it is correct to say up north and down south.  Years ago I 
made a lot of trips to Maryland in a Dodge Colt.   The thing got 30 mpg or 
so and I always checked it both ways.  It always got about 1 mpg or better 
comming back "down" south than going "up" north.  ;-)

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George Willer" <gwill at gwill.net>
To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'" 
<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] Hydrogen fuel


> Hi Steve... it's good to see you posting again.
>
> I don't know about the hydroxyl group but there seem to be guys still
> looking for ways to get energy from nothing.  An easier thing would be to
> re-engineer our roads so they all go downhill.  ;-)
>
> George
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-
>> bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of soffiler at ct.metrocast.net
>> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 11:03 AM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Hydrogen fuel
>>
>> ----- Original Message Follows -----
>> From: Ed Stewart <edstewart1 at verizon.net>
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Hydrogen fuel
>> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:35:29 -0500
>>
>> >I am a member of the Hydroxy group on Yahoo
>> >http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Hydroxy/ There are a
>> >bunch of fellows  working on ways to obtain Hydrogen from
>> >water for fuel and sharing info  with eachother,. Ed
>>
>>
>> As George Willer has pointed out (by the way, HI GEORGE!)
>> you need to input energy to split a water molecule into
>> separate hydrogen and oxygen atoms.  Under absolutely
>> perfect conditions (impossible to attain) you get back
>> exactly what you put in when they recombine, nothing more.
>> Therefore hydrogen is an energy storage medium, like
>> compressed air or a rechargeable battery.  Hydrogen is not
>> an energy SOURCE like petroleum, natural gas, or sunlight.
>>
>> The thinking that somehow water can be spit into hydrogen
>> and oxygen easily, with little energy input, is analgous to
>> modern alchemy.  Check history - they finally gave up trying
>> to turn lead into gold.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Steve O.
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