[AT] quiet list(wheat prices)

[Keith Kinney]

Farmer
Which pellet mill are you looking at?
Keith


On Feb 22, 2008, at 4:41 PM, Francis Robinson wrote:

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>
> --On Friday, February 22, 2008 11:57 AM -0600 Ralph Goff <alfg at sasktel.net 
> >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Richard Fink Sr" <nancydick at pennswoods.net>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 9:14  
>> AM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] quiet list(wheat prices)
>>
>>
>>> Ralf and others on this ethanol fling. Thay are building a plant to
>>> turn it to fuel[corn] not to far from me.[ Clearfield] 20-30 miles  
>>> it
>>> is in the high millions to build and really out in the country. From
>>> what little i have read on this stuff it can't be piped must be
>>> hauled in special trailers. Don't make much sense to me unless they
>>> build a oil  processing plant near it.
>>
>> Richard, I have read recently that due to the higher grain prices  
>> there
>> have  been several of these ethanol plant projects put on hold.  
>> Expensive
>> grain  really cuts into the viability of producing ethanol. Plus, the
>> farmer has no  problem selling his grain into the food market for a  
>> good
>> price so the  ethanol plants have to compete with that. So far its  
>> all
>> good news for the  farmer but no telling how long it will last.
>>
>> Ralph in Sask.
>>
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>
>
>
> 	I think that it will all find a balance point eventually. It will  
> be much
> like the way many of us over many years have switched heating fuel  
> types
> several times. Unless something goes silly we tend to chug along  
> with it as
> long as our system is working good. When the heating system needs  
> replacing
> we then look at what is the best choice at that time. When things go  
> silly
> everybody puts in a woodstove...   :-)
> 	High grain prices will throttle down ethanol but when they drop  
> back down
> to a level that will pencil out then it will pick up again. The main  
> thing
> is that we need to develop a whole bunch of options instead of  
> putting all
> of our eggs in one basket (especially a basket that somebody else  
> owns).
> There is not nor should there be any one energy answer but instead a  
> flock
> of options and the fewer of those that Mega McGreedy can run through a
> meter the better.
>
> 	I do worry about some of these guys that are spending a million  
> dollars of
> borrowed money to re-equip a big operation and paying for the stuff  
> over 6
> or 7 years. This paper house could burn down in two years and while  
> I don't
> expect corn to ever see $1.50 again in my lifetime $3 corn will sure
> struggle to make payments based on $6 corn...
> 	This is a good time to do some "reasonable" upgrading of tired  
> equipment
> and fix up buildings and infrastructure but a wise man will avoid  
> "shiny
> paint/bigger than the neighbor's" fever.   :-)
>
> 	I love wood pellets and I am considering investing in a pellet  
> mill. No
> meter, no shystery business practices and no wildly fluctuating  
> markets. It
> can do a 2 to 3 year payoff between my several pellet stoves and my
> neighbor's stove. Some of my grown kids may also end up with pellet  
> stoves.
> Its not for everybody but it pencils out very well for us. In good  
> weather
> a local tree trimmer drops off 3 to 5 tons of chipped limbs most  
> weeks. We
> use them for some landscaping but mostly for compost now.
>
>
>
> --
> "farmer"
>
>
> Francis Robinson
> Central Indiana, USA
> Robinson at svs.net
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Keith Kinney
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