[AT] Trailers

Fri Feb 1 14:43:37 PST 2008

I've been told, but don't know the truth of it, that you can drive a big ole 
diesel pusher motorhome or even a road tractor converted to a motor home 
with a class C license as long as you own the rig and it has an RV title or 
the title has been converted to RV title status (in the case of the road 
tractor conversion).

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vaughn Miller" <vemiller at gmail.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] Trailers

> As stated previously, PA has both commercial and non-commercial class
> A and B lisences.  Other states may vary on the non-commercial part.
>
> On Feb 1, 2008 4:11 PM, Louis <louis at kellnet.com> wrote:
>> I have to disagree.  I had an F-450 (GVW 15,000lbs) and a Kiefer 
>> gooseneck
>> trailer (GVW 16,000).  In Ohio I was running under farm exemption,  I was
>> allowed to go within 150 miles of the farm without a CDL.  I cheated a
>> little and went to Iowa to pick up a John Deere R that I bought out 
>> there.
>> I got pulled over at the scales by Des Moines.  They red lighted me 
>> because
>> I didn't have a DOT number on the truck.  Then they discovered that I 
>> didn't
>> have a CDL.  I thought that I was going to jail that night.  The officer
>> kept me there for about in hour.  He called the Ohio State Highway 
>> Patrol,
>> to find out about CDL and farm tag regulations in Ohio.  I was ok with 
>> the
>> farm tags, but not with the CDL.  Anyways, the officer told me to get in 
>> my
>> truck and not to come back to Iowa till I have a CDL.  I thanked him and
>> left.
>>
>> When I got back to Ohio, I got my CDL.  I grandfathered out of the 
>> driving
>> part of the test, because I was using the farm exemption previously.
>>
>> This is what I copied from Ohio revised code.  It makes no difference if 
>> the
>> vehicle is commercial or private.  I think this applies pretty much 
>> across
>> the USA, since the states base their CDL law on federal regulation.
>>
>> Class A - any combination of vehicles with a combined gross vehicle 
>> weight
>> rating of twenty-six thousand one pounds or more, if the gross vehicle
>> weight rating of the vehicle or vehicles being towed is in excess of ten
>> thousand pounds.
>>
>> Class B - any single vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of
>> twenty-six thousand one pounds or more or any such vehicle towing a 
>> vehicle
>> having a gross vehicle weight rating that is not in excess of ten 
>> thousand
>> pounds.
>>
>> Lou
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Ronald L. Cook
>> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 2:54 PM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Trailers
>>
>>
>> I really think the name of the license says it all.  CDL  Commercial
>> Drivers License.  I have had one for years.  I haul for hire.
>> Commercial operation.  You guys hauling tractors for hire?  If you are,
>> you actually need more than just a CDL.
>>
>> Ron Cook
>> Salix, IA
>>
>> CEE VILL wrote:
>> > Form tha Pa. CDL drivers manual:
>> >
>> > All Commercial Drivers? License applicants must pass a written test to
>> > demonstrate sufficient knowledge of the laws, rules, and regulations
>> > about the operation of the commercial vehicle or vehicles they intend
>> > to drive.
>> >
>> >
>> > Applicants who want to operate a Commercial Motor Vehicle is defined
>> > as follows:a. Has a gross combination weight rating of 26,001 pounds
>> > or more inclusive of a towed unit more than 10,000 pounds or
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > b. Has a gross vehicle weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more or c. Is
>> > designed to transport 16 or more passengers, including the driver; or
>> > d. Is of any size and is used in the transportation of materials found
>> > to be hazardous for the purpose of the Hazardous Material
>> > Transportation Act which require the motor vehicle to be placarded
>> > under the Hazardous Materials Regulations.
>> >
>> >
>> > I could read this to say the trailer can be more than 10,000 gross if
>> > the combinaton is still under 26,001.  It is possible for another
>> > paragraph elsewhere to add to or modify / clarify the above
>> > paragraph...???
>> >
>> > Charlie
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 07:20:05 -0800
>> >> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> >> From: nancydick at pennswoods.net
>> >> Subject: [AT] Trailers
>> >>
>> >> Hi all i just heard that in PA if you want to pull a trailer over
>> >> 10,000 gross that you will need a CDL? any one else heard this may
>> >> make tough for hauling old tractors.
>> >> R Fink
>> >>
>> >>
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