[AT] Trailers

[Vaughn Miller]

As stated previously, PA has both commercial and non-commercial class
A and B lisences.  Other states may vary on the non-commercial part.

On Feb 1, 2008 4:11 PM, Louis <louis at kellnet.com> wrote:
> I have to disagree.  I had an F-450 (GVW 15,000lbs) and a Kiefer gooseneck
> trailer (GVW 16,000).  In Ohio I was running under farm exemption,  I was
> allowed to go within 150 miles of the farm without a CDL.  I cheated a
> little and went to Iowa to pick up a John Deere R that I bought out there.
> I got pulled over at the scales by Des Moines.  They red lighted me because
> I didn't have a DOT number on the truck.  Then they discovered that I didn't
> have a CDL.  I thought that I was going to jail that night.  The officer
> kept me there for about in hour.  He called the Ohio State Highway Patrol,
> to find out about CDL and farm tag regulations in Ohio.  I was ok with the
> farm tags, but not with the CDL.  Anyways, the officer told me to get in my
> truck and not to come back to Iowa till I have a CDL.  I thanked him and
> left.
>
> When I got back to Ohio, I got my CDL.  I grandfathered out of the driving
> part of the test, because I was using the farm exemption previously.
>
> This is what I copied from Ohio revised code.  It makes no difference if the
> vehicle is commercial or private.  I think this applies pretty much across
> the USA, since the states base their CDL law on federal regulation.
>
> Class A - any combination of vehicles with a combined gross vehicle weight
> rating of twenty-six thousand one pounds or more, if the gross vehicle
> weight rating of the vehicle or vehicles being towed is in excess of ten
> thousand pounds.
>
> Class B - any single vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of
> twenty-six thousand one pounds or more or any such vehicle towing a vehicle
> having a gross vehicle weight rating that is not in excess of ten thousand
> pounds.
>
> Lou
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Ronald L. Cook
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 2:54 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>
> Subject: Re: [AT] Trailers
>
>
> I really think the name of the license says it all.  CDL  Commercial
> Drivers License.  I have had one for years.  I haul for hire.
> Commercial operation.  You guys hauling tractors for hire?  If you are,
> you actually need more than just a CDL.
>
> Ron Cook
> Salix, IA
>
> CEE VILL wrote:
> > Form tha Pa. CDL drivers manual:
> >
> > All Commercial Drivers? License applicants must pass a written test to
> > demonstrate sufficient knowledge of the laws, rules, and regulations
> > about the operation of the commercial vehicle or vehicles they intend
> > to drive.
> >
> >
> > Applicants who want to operate a Commercial Motor Vehicle is defined
> > as follows:a. Has a gross combination weight rating of 26,001 pounds
> > or more inclusive of a towed unit more than 10,000 pounds or
> >
> >
> >
> > b. Has a gross vehicle weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more or c. Is
> > designed to transport 16 or more passengers, including the driver; or
> > d. Is of any size and is used in the transportation of materials found
> > to be hazardous for the purpose of the Hazardous Material
> > Transportation Act which require the motor vehicle to be placarded
> > under the Hazardous Materials Regulations.
> >
> >
> > I could read this to say the trailer can be more than 10,000 gross if
> > the combinaton is still under 26,001.  It is possible for another
> > paragraph elsewhere to add to or modify / clarify the above
> > paragraph...???
> >
> > Charlie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 07:20:05 -0800
> >> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> >> From: nancydick at pennswoods.net
> >> Subject: [AT] Trailers
> >>
> >> Hi all i just heard that in PA if you want to pull a trailer over
> >> 10,000 gross that you will need a CDL? any one else heard this may
> >> make tough for hauling old tractors.
> >> R Fink
> >>
> >>
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