[Farmall] International 460 Utility

cvill cvill at frontiernet.net
Tue Dec 23 18:15:13 PST 2008


It sure sounds like you have it plugged in, Monte. (Grin).  I do not 
remember running my 340U or my 560 much in below freezing weather so I 
guess I do not know if either would have that problem with the Hi Tran 
that is in them.  If your tractor sits without running for two or three 
weeks in warmer weather, you can try again letting out a little oil from 
the drain plugs to see if any water has settled out.   Hopefully that 
might save you the cost of another entire oil change.

Good luck with the problem.  Hopefully someone else can offer more insight.

Charlie V.


 



mstrating wrote:
> Charlie V, I understand why you asked about the oil I used. If the 
> computer doesn't work the first question should be "Is it plugged in!"
>
> I appreciate the information. I used IH "HiTran"(?) purchased from my 
> local Farm & Fleet farm store. I did work the cylinders in and out once 
> but was afraid to run the pump any longer with the fluid drained. I will 
> give it another try when weather is warmer. Maybe we will get a January 
> thaw!
>
> Monte
>
> cvill wrote:
>   
>> Understood, Mike.  I was merely throwing out the question to the 
>> original post on the long shot that the use of incorrect oil could be 
>> the cause of the problem on the 460U rather than contaminated oil.  I 
>> surely do not mean to insult the intelligence of the original poster, 
>> but stranger things have happened.  One day I had a brain cramp and 
>> filled the gas tank on a chain saw with chain oil.  Promptly realized 
>> what I had done, dumped the tank and started over.  Whoze poifect??
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike Sloane wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> In the case of the Ford N tractors, 90W oil is what they are supposed to 
>>> have in the system. I suspect that 1. Ford never expected anyone to be 
>>> using the three point hitch in sub-freezing weather and 2. the system is 
>>>   based on 1930s technology, when high pressure hydraulics and light 
>>> hydraulic oils were not in common use, certainly not for transmissions 
>>> and final drives. This was true of IH tractors as well - the early "Lift 
>>> All" systems in the H and M used 30W engine oil for hydraulic fluid, 
>>> which was better but still pretty stiff in cold weather.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> cvill wrote:
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> Could we ask what oil was used for the refill.  Incorrect oil such as 
>>>> 90W gear oil could cause this same problem.  Case in point:  I have an 
>>>> 8N ford with 90W in the gear cases.   The 3 pt. hitch will do just as 
>>>> you describe.  The oil just gets too thick to pump.
>>>>
>>>> Charlie V.
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
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