[AT] Track loader update

[charlie hill]

I agree J.  I just figured that since we aren't (or at least I'm not) really 
sure where the bubbling is coming from that there is only a couple of bucks 
lost by trying stop leak.  If infact it is leaking compression around the 
head gasket you are dead on right and the only thing to do is tear it down 
and fix it right.

With that said,  a long time ago I had an Oldsmobile with one of those 
worthless 350 diesel conversion engines.  It started to bubble in the 
radiator and everyone immediately decided that it was a head gasket problem. 
A friend of mine has been a mechanic all his life and worked at a GM 
dealership for a long time.  He told me he'd be willing to bet that it 
wasn't the head gasket but instead was caused by hot spots in the water 
jackets from rust build up.   He said he had seen many of those cars traded 
in or engines replaced that they later fixed by flushing the cooling system. 
In my case, the car had gotten beyond it's usefullness to me and I never 
bothered to fix it.  So I can't say for sure if that was the problem.

Charlie
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Subject: Re: [AT] Track loader update


> Charlie the problem is where it is if if it was a leak in the cooling
> system with water running out then YES stop leak may work for small leaks
> but this is pressure from the cylinders getting into the water so the stop
> leak won't get into it to stop it. Tried that myself with no help I guess
> I'm just a believer in doing it correct the first time to save time an
> money. Head gaskets are one thing that a quick fix just never works for
> very long on if at all.
> J.
>
>> J. I wrote my reply to Spencer before reading yours.  I'm no expert on
>> that
>> engine so I'll defer to your knowledge.  However,  if it was mine I still
>> might try the stop leak.  grins.
>>
>> Charlie
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>>
>>> Sorry  Spencer but you will have to pull that head because when under a
>>> work load it will shoot hot gas into the cooling system and over heat.
>>> There is just know way to cure it other than a new head gasket and
>>> having
>>> the head resurfaced so its good and flat. They make a special grinding
>>> machine for that most  automotive machine shops have one, cost is very
>>> little.
>>> J.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Another first tonight - she fired on diesel.   Took some coaxing
>>>> though.   It wasn't air in the system because I got plenty of smoke.
>>>> It just took about a dozen tries before she would go.   Once again,
>>>> chalk it up to not running for 4 years.   I'll tell you what - I don't
>>>> know how the previous owner ever got it fired on starting fluid.   In
>>>> fact, I'll bet he told a pretty big story.   I doubt he ever got it
>>>> running.
>>>>
>>>> One bad note:    No bubbles in the coolant while on gas, but I got some
>>>> bubbles and foaming and overflow while on diesel.   I put the radiator
>>>> cap on, and then I let it run about 10 minutes on diesel at half
>>>> throttle while I tried the bucket and messed around with a few other
>>>> things.   The radiator cap held the pressure, as did the radiator,
>>>> etc.   So I am hoping this is just a very minor one-way (air into
>>>> water)
>>>> head gasket leak and not something more serious.   Further running and
>>>> some inspections over the next few weeks will tell the tale.   I can
>>>> move the track loader now at the very least, which is the main reason
>>>> I
>>>> had to get this running.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Steering clutch repair is next!  Stayed tuned.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Spencer
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