[AT] OT: Gas story

Ken Knierim ken.knierim at gmail.com
Wed Jul 4 18:33:21 PDT 2007


Ron,

Average ground temp in central Arizona is over 80 degrees and higher
than that right now. Outside temp is better than 115 degrees as I type
this. Pumps are calibrated at 60 degrees according to federal
standards but the ground doesn't care; no temp regulation exists.

Solids, liquids and gases usually expand when heated, right? Do you
THINK there might be a LITTLE expansion in the fuel with that kind of
heat?  Do you know the coefficient of expansion for petrochemicals or
more specifically, gasoline? Some quick research shows it's close to
4X that of mercury:

http://dev.physicslab.org/Document.aspx?doctype=3&filename=ThermalPhysics_ThermalExpansion.xml

With all due respect, there IS a difference due to temperature. Now
whether you'll notice it with a vehicle is another story, but claiming
it doesn't exist is like saying the earth is flat. You might not be
able to see it (or electrons, for that matter) but claiming it's bull
isn't very open-minded.

Ken in AZ


On 7/4/07, RonMyers at wildblue.net <RonMyers at wildblue.net> wrote:
> George,
> The temperature at the point where the underground tanks are stored is on
> average 55 deg.  No matter what part of the country that you live in.
> North south east or west . this is set by the government regulations. so
> it really doesn't matter where you get it from.
> In almost all states the meters on the pumps are tested to guarantee their
> accuracy so this whole bunch of Bull is just that a bunch of Bull.
> You a full gallon of gas at each station or the government will come down
> hard on the owners.
>
> Ron
>
>
> > Some folks completely miss the point.  It's the temperature of the gas
> > when
> > it's metered through the gas pump at the station that makes the
> > difference.
> > The gas that's expanded because it's warmer when it's measured and sold is
> > the point.  You're paying for slightly more than you're actually getting.
> > I
> > doubt the difference that's claimed is as large as stated, but there's a
> > difference anyway.
> >
> > George Willer
> >
> >> Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story
> >>
> >> When you put the cold fuel in your hot tank sitting in the sun alongside
> >> the Mack doesn't it get warmer.
> >> I can't believe that anybody would believe that the temperature of the
> >> fuel would make difference. If its gasoline its preheated before it go
> >> into the Carb. If its diesel it preheated in the manifold same as fuel
> >> injected cars.
> >>
> >> Ron
> >
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