[AJD] Model L steering box

Duane Larson jdlarson at comcast.net
Tue Jan 16 09:41:19 PST 2007


Have you ever removed an outer race to see if there is any info on the race?
Duane

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Boehm" <rustyacres at yahoo.com>
To: "Antique John Deere mailing list" 
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Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: [AJD] Model L steering box


> No identification at all is stamped into the bearing:
> no number, no manufacturer.  Each steering box used
> two of the bearings. The inner edge of the bearing
> rolls on a machined surface at the top and the bottom
> edges of the steering shaft worm gear. The outer edge
> rolls on outer races. Very simple.
>
> I did find a similar bearing at a bicycle shop last
> year and bought a couple at  $2 each. I thought I'd
> found the Holy Grail!!  But they were just different
> enough that when l I installed two of them it popped
> the balls  right out of the retaining cage of one
> bearing on reassembly.
>
> John Boehm
> Woodland, CA
> Visit my web site at http://vintagetractors.com
>
>
> --- Duane Larson <jdlarson at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> John,
>> Is there any info about who made the bearing?  I've
>> never been into my unsL
>> steering box - I assume the inner edge of the balls
>> roll on a steering shaft
>> inner race and the outer edge of the balls roll on
>> an outer race?  Is it a
>> 1, 2, or 3 piece bearing?  I've done a lot of old
>> bearing hunting and may
>> have some resources if someone has a clue who made
>> the original bearing.
>> The design looks like a governor bearing?
>> With the work you all have put into it, I'm sure its
>> not easy!
>> Regards,
>> Duane
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "John Boehm" <rustyacres at yahoo.com>
>> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
>> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 9:31 PM
>> Subject: RE: [AJD] Model L steering box
>>
>>
>> >I did try our local Motion Industries branch here
>> in
>> > Woodland and they were not able to come up with a
>> > replacement bearing.  I suspect the counterperson
>> was
>> > not real interested in putting a lot of time into
>> what
>> > would have been a small sale. Hopefully, Brad's
>> > counterperson will put more effort into it. Thanks
>> for
>> > trying!
>> >
>> > John Boehm
>> > Woodland, CA
>> > Visit my web site at http://vintagetractors.com
>> >
>> >
>> > --- "greg at theoldtractorcompany.com"
>> > <greg at theoldtractorcompany.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> John is right, this is not as easy as first
>> >> suspected. Both John and I have looked
>> >> a long time for a suitable replacement
>> >>
>> >> Brad, I've tried our local Motion warehouse
>> several
>> >> times and they could not
>> >> ever come up with anything. Sure hope your guys
>> can.
>> >>
>> >> Frustrating part to say the least
>> >> Greg
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Greg Stephen
>> >> The Old Tractor Company
>> >> Stephen Equipment Company
>> >> PO Box 709
>> >> Franktown, CO 80116
>> >> 303-663-5246
>> >> 303-468-0377 FAX<<--GREAT WAY TO REACH ME!
>> >>
>> >> On Sun Jan 14 15:36 , 'Brad'
>> <bloomis at charter.net>
>> >> sent:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >John,
>> >> >I see now. That which I posted is a plain ball
>> >> bearing, not tapered as your
>> >> >photo shows. We have a good relation with Motion
>> >> Industries at my place of
>> >> >work, I'll see what Rick can come up with. They
>> are
>> >> really good about
>> >> >finding odd stuff for us at the winery as most
>> of
>> >> our equipment is European
>> >> >and metric, and just plain weird. The are under
>> the
>> >> same umbrella as Napa
>> >> >Auto Parts. Your bearing photo harkens me back
>> to
>> >> my early wrenching days as
>> >> >a youth on my Schwinn Sting Ray in the early
>> 60s. I
>> >> used to re-pack my
>> >> >bearings a lot for whatever reason.
>> >> >
>> >> >Brad Loomis
>> >> >San Miguel, CA
>> >> >
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >
>> >> >Brad and Duane-
>> >> >
>> >> >I have  placed a detailed photo of the L/LA
>> >> steering
>> >> >box bearing on my website, the link is
>> >> >http://vintagetractors.com/whatsit.html   It  is
>> >> hard
>> >> >to get an exact diameter because the metal
>> retainer
>> >> is
>> >> >a bit wavy due to the way it is crimped around
>> the
>> >> >balls, but here is what I measured with a
>> >> micrometer
>> >> >in inches, then converted to mm (25.4 mm per
>> inch):
>> >> >
>> >> >Inner diameter of retainer: 0.90 inch or 23 mm
>> >> >Outer diameter of retainer: 1.50 inch or 38 mm
>> >> >Height of retainer: 0.315 inch or 8 mm
>> >> >
>> >> >If I am measuring correctly, the dimensions are
>> >> >different than what you found for the #42
>> bearing.
>> >> I
>> >> >googled #47 ball bearing, but did not come up
>> with
>> >> >anything  pertinent.
>> >> >
>> >> >John Boehm
>> >> >Woodland, CA
>> >> >Visit my web site at http://vintagetractors.com
>> >> >
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