[AJD] Model L steering box
John Boehm
rustyacres at yahoo.com
Sun Jan 14 10:09:23 PST 2007
Brad and Duane-
I have placed a detailed photo of the L/LA steering
box bearing on my website, the link is
http://vintagetractors.com/whatsit.html It is hard
to get an exact diameter because the metal retainer is
a bit wavy due to the way it is crimped around the
balls, but here is what I measured with a micrometer
in inches, then converted to mm (25.4 mm per inch):
Inner diameter of retainer: 0.90 inch or 23 mm
Outer diameter of retainer: 1.50 inch or 38 mm
Height of retainer: 0.315 inch or 8 mm
If I am measuring correctly, the dimensions are
different than what you found for the #42 bearing. I
googled #47 ball bearing, but did not come up with
anything pertinent.
John Boehm
Woodland, CA
Visit my web site at http://vintagetractors.com
--- Duane Larson <jdlarson at comcast.net> wrote:
> John,
> The link in my earlier comment offers them for
> $24.95, and three are listed
> on the Motion Industries page - two call for price
> and the third is over
> $90, so I
> m not sure what is going on. Are there any numbers
> on the old L bearing?
> Googling #42 bicycle bearing brings up some stuff.
> The "#" is the OD of the
> bearing in mm so a #42 and #47 would be 5mm
> different. Do you have the ID,
> OD, and thickness of the old bearing in mm? Lots of
> bearing are mm sizes,
> particularly in the magneto world.
> Regards,
> Duane
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Boehm" <rustyacres at yahoo.com>
> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 12:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [AJD] Model L steering box
>
>
> > Duane:
> > Jack Kreeger, one of the experts on the L series
> > tractors, lists Western Auto #47 bicycle bearings
> as a
> > replacement. However I followed up on this with
> > Western Auto and it is no longer being produced.
> The
> > #42 bearing in your notes sounds like it may be
> the a
> > good lead, possibly the same bearing, but do you
> have
> > a source that stocks and can actually supply it?
> >
> > Brad:
> > As to your suggestion of the SKF bearing, I will
> take
> > this information, along with an old bearing that I
> > have, into our local bearing supply and see if it
> is
> > compatible. I had them search all of their
> possible
> > sources, including SKF, a few months ago and we
> could
> > not find anything that would work.
> >
> > Over the years, I've had many suggestions of
> bearing
> > numbers, manufacturers, etc., but no one has
> actually
> > come up with a manufacturer or supplier from whom
> this
> > bearings is actually still in production or
> available.
> >
> > John Boehm
> > Woodland, CA
> > Visit my web site at http://vintagetractors.com
> >
> >
> >
> > John Boehm
> > Woodland, CA
> > Visit my web site at http://vintagetractors.com
> >
> >
> > --- Duane Larson <jdlarson at comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> John,
> >> I have in my notes that a #42 bicycle bearing
> will
> >> work. May be worthwhile
> >> checking with a bicycle shop. I tried to send a
> pix
> >> of the bearing but it
> >> was too large a file. The link below will show
> it,
> >> if that goes thru.
> >> Apparently the #42 is a 6806-2RS 30x42x7mm ball
> >> bearing.
> >> Regards,
> >> Duane
> >>
> >> pix of bearing at
> >>
> >
>
http://www.vxb.com/page/bearings/PROD/HybridCeramicBearings/Kit7555
> >>
> >> Buy Ball Bearings Supplier/Distributor Home
> >> >> Hybrid Ceramic
> >> Bearing
> >>
> >>
> >> 6806-2RS Bearing Hybrid Ceramic Sealed
> 30x42x7
> >>
> >> Quantity in Basket: None
> >> Part Number: Kit7555
> >> Our Low Price: $24.95
> >> Shipping Weight: 0.06 pounds
> >>
> >> Promotion Code:
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "John Boehm" <rustyacres at yahoo.com>
> >> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
> >> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> >> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 10:18 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [AJD] Model L steering box
> >>
> >>
> >> > If you could come up with the bearing number,
> that
> >> > would be great. Last year, I did try some
> bearings
> >> > from a bicycle shop. They were close, but not
> >> close
> >> > enough to work. They were not New Departure,
> but a
> >> > made in Taiwan generic bicycle bearing. Also,
> >> > received a tip from Ron Jungmeyer that he has
> used
> >> a
> >> > bearing from Hartford Company. I tried to track
> >> that
> >> > down, but they were no longer being produced.
> So I
> >> am
> >> > still looking- I have about ten L/LA steering
> >> boxes
> >> > here that could use those bearings. Any leads
> or
> >> help
> >> > is appreciated!
> >> >
> >> > John Boehm
> >> > Woodland, CA
> >> > Visit my web site at http://vintagetractors.com
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- wwwayne johnson <wjohnson at bigriver.net>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> A couple years back I found a match at a
> bicycle
> >> >> shop. Unfortunately, I
> >> >> didnot keep track of the numbers but they were
> >> New
> >> >> Departure.
> >> >> Merle Wayne
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: "John Boehm" <rustyacres at yahoo.com>
> >> >> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
> >> >> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> >> >> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 10:14 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: [AJD] Model L steering box
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > The later style roller bearings are still
> >> >> available
> >> >> > from Deere. But I have not been able to find
> >> ball
> >> >> > bearings from either Deere or anyone else
> for
> >> the
> >> >> > earlier style steering boxes. And roller
> >> bearings
> >> >> will
> >> >> > not work in the ball bearing type steering
> box,
> >> >> since
> >> >> > both the bearing races and the bearing
> surfaces
> >> on
> >> >> the
> >> >> > worm gear are machined differently in the
> two
> >> >> > different types.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > John Boehm
> >> >> > Woodland, CA
> >> >> > Visit my web site at
> http://vintagetractors.com
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --- GuyW <guyiii at cox.net> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> I checked with my local Deere dealer
> >> (Escondido,
> >> >> CA)
> >> >> >> on Saturday and their
> >> >> >> computer system shows no parts (at least
> the
> >> 10 I
> >> >> >> inquired about)....was the
> >> >> >> parts man just clueless??
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> It also appears that the boxes had ball
> >> bearings
> >> >> >> initially, but had a change
> >> >> >> to roller bearings...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> -Guy-
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> >> From: <kuz111 at bellsouth.net>
> >> >> >> To: "Antique John Deere mailinglist"
> >> >> >>
> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> >> >> >> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 2:56 PM
> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [AJD] Model L steering box
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Yes all parts for the steering box and
> >> secter
> >> >> gear
> >> >> >> can be bought throu a
> >> >> >> > John Deer dealer Have a great day Wendell
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> From: "GuyW" <guyiii at cox.net>
> >> >> >> >> Date: 2007/01/04 Thu PM 03:28:07 EST
> >> >> >> >> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
> >> >> >> >>
> >> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> >> >> >> >> Subject: [AJD] Model L steering box
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> The steering box on my 1942 Model L has
> >> water
> >> >> >> damage (really ugly worm
> >> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> >> sector).
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> One option is welding up and regrinding
> >> >> parts....
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Are internal parts available new?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Any chance this is a Model A Ford
> steering
> >> >> box,
> >> >> >> as I've read for earlier
> >> >> >> >> tracs (Y?) ??
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> -Guy-
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >>
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