[AT] For the steamer guys

[Gene Dotson]

    John;
    You may be confusing the small model 55 combine with its bigger 
brothers, the models 95 and 105. The 105 used the 4010 engine and later 
models the 4020 engine.
    The 55 used a 4 cylinder engine and changed engine manufacturers a 
couple of times during its life. The 55 would handle a 3 row corn head, the 
95 a 4 row and the 105 a 6 row head. Of course these size designations would 
not be applicable in non corn growing areas.
    The smaller combines were the 40 and 45 models. Deere made pull type 
versions of all of these models, but I am not familiar with all the model 
numbers.
    The 65 pull type combine has the same workings as the 55 self propelled 
and would be much lighter and in the likely dry field conditions and windrow 
pickup, would require much less power. A 3020 at about 60 horsepower would 
be equivilent to the power of the self propelled machine.
    My first combine was a John Deere model 42 pull type combine that I ran 
with a 51 horsepower Case 700 and it had more than adequate power, even in 
wet field conditions.
    My dad ran a model 12A with a 6 foot cut with a Farmall H

                        Gene


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Hall" <jthall at worldnet.att.net>
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Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] For the steamer guys


> Reason I was thinking the 3020 would have been too small is that a Farmall 
> M has all it wants hooked to a 5ft Allis. Besides, isn't the gas engine in 
> a 55 the same as in a gas 4020?
>
> Speaking of 4020's pulling combines, I bought a JD 30 pull type (still 
> have it and used it last year as a matter of fact) that was once hooked to 
> a 4020. Don't know what they run in it, but instead of anything slipping 
> or shearing the gearbox exploded. We put on a power unit off of another 30 
> to solve that problem.
>
> John
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ralph Goff" <alfg at sasktel.net>
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> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 1:19 PM
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>
>> John Hall wrote:
>>> I would almost think a 3020 wouldn't have enough power. Did the pull 
>>> types have a 13 foot header? At least I think that is what is on my 55.
>>>
>>> John
>>
>> No shortage of power in the 3020 John. Of course it was picking up swath 
>> as straight cutting was almost unheard of with a pull type by the 1970s. 
>> He was picking up a 14 foot swath of wheat cut by a John Deere 200A 
>> swather. Not sure of the speed but seems to me his rub bars were getting 
>> worn down and he was keeping the clearance pretty tight to thresh the 
>> wheat. I'd estimate speed around 2 mph or so. It made it easy for me on 
>> the 2010 pulling the hopper wagon unloading on the go. Long straight 
>> swaths most of the time and fairly consistent speeds.
>> On second thought, I'm wrong. The time that I am thinking of he had 
>> upgraded to a 4020 power shift pulling the 65 combine. But I know he used 
>> the 3020 for the first few years.
>>
>> Ralph in Sask.
>>>
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