[AT] funny..

charlie hill chill8 at cox.net
Tue Oct 31 04:37:54 PST 2006


Those homeowners need a GOOD lawyer!  Remind me never to take an appraisal 
assignment in your county.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Hall" <jthall at worldnet.att.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] funny..


> Definetly going to have to check that one out!!!!
>
> The problem with the ordinance here is that the patches of woods it used 
> to lie in are now housing developments. Big old mess, part due to the 
> obvious dangers and partly due to the fact the homeowners literally can't 
> sell their homes and the government won't buy them from them either. Of 
> course the poor folks still have to make mortgage payments or ruin their 
> credit. There is another group saying Uncle Sam buried a lot of stuff that 
> they shouldn't have.
>
> To make this somewhat tractor related, during WWII my grandfather was 
> given enough gas stamps for his tractor that they at least didn't run out 
> of gas to use for the trucks moving the farm. He didn't lie about his 
> tractor gas usage. When they asked did he have a tractor that ran on gas 
> he said yes. Guess he figured it was their job to know that was only for 
> cranking!!!!
>
> John
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Al Jones" <aljones at ncfreedom.net>
> To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'" 
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 6:16 PM
> Subject: RE: [AT] funny..
>
>
>> YES! I heard about this for the first time a couple years ago.  The site
>> is not too far off of NC Hwy. 111, on the way to Junebug Green's salvage
>> yard!
>>
>> Al
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of charlie hill
>> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 9:12 PM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] funny..
>>
>> Heck John,
>>
>> Don't feel bad about the unexploded ordinance.  Over in Wayne county,
>> about
>> 2/3 of the way from your place towards mine, there is an atomic bomb
>> burried
>> in a field!  It fell off of a B52 near Seymour  Johnson AFB.   They know
>>
>> about where it is but it is deep in the ground.  The government has a
>> chain
>> link fence around the area where they think it is.  The only Internet
>> reference I could find quickly is copied below.  CBS 60 Minutes did a
>> story
>> about it some time back.
>>
>> "24 January 1961
>> A B-52 bomber suffered structural failure and disintegrated in mid-air
>> 12
>> miles north of Seymour Johnson Air Force Base in Goldsboro, NC,
>> releasing
>> two hydrogen bombs. Five crewmen parachuted to safety, while three
>> others
>> died when the aircraft exploded in mid-air. The bombs jettisoned as the
>> plane descended, one parachuting to earth intact, the other plunging
>> deep
>> into waterlogged farmland. To this day, parts of the nuclear bomb remain
>>
>> embedded deep in the muck. The area is off-limits, and is tested
>> regularly
>> for radiation releases. More information can be found at the Broken
>> Arrow:
>> Goldsboro, NC site at www.ibiblio.org/bomb"
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "John Hall" <jthall at worldnet.att.net>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 7:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] funny..
>>
>>
>>> Yep, Camp Butner alright. Don't know when they abandoned it after the
>> war
>>> but it wasn't long after to the best of my understanding. All the
>> original
>>> roads in that town still carry their military names. There are still
>>> several bunkers in the woods. And lots of unexploded ordinance
>>> remaining----the army is still fighting that problem. To this day most
>> of
>>> the families who were displaced still get hot under the collar when
>>> talking about it. It's not so much of having to give up your farm to
>> help
>>> the good of the country but it is how they were treated. My
>> grandfather
>>> was more sawmiller than farmer. If he wasn't in the field then he was
>> in
>>> the woods logging. Upon receiving his eviction notice one of the
>>> stipulations was that he was not to cut down another tree effective
>>> immedialtely. The house they were living in was 4 years old---it
>> became an
>>> officers club. My dad, who was 12 yrs old, pulled every bit of wiring
>> out
>>> of the house. Every screen was pulled off the windows. Anything they
>> could
>>> take with them they did. Trying to move a farming operation and
>> working on
>>> 2 farms a considerable distance apart took its toll healthwise on my
>>> grandfather. He died the same year they moved here. Afterwards dad
>> quit
>>> school to help his mother farm. Fortunatley they had several tennants.
>>
>>> Then again this cost them when the allotment for tobacco progarm began
>>
>>> since most of the tennants were not high yield producers. Supposedly
>> the
>>> feds were going to allow them the chance to buy back their land but
>> never
>>> did. The state got first crack at it. They bought it and then
>> proceeded to
>>> cut the timber. Talk about adding insult to injury!!!  The area my
>> dad's
>>> family was from was known as Veazey Ridge. The newspaper headline in
>> '42
>>> read "For the first time in 200 years there are no Veazey's on Veazey
>>> ridge". Well, we've been here for the past 60 years although the farm
>> is
>>> down from 600 to just 60 acres. To the best of my knowledge most of
>> the
>>> Veazeys are out of farming. Not exactly genealogy, but its my way of
>>> tracking part of my family.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "charlie hill" <chill8 at cox.net>
>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 4:02 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] funny..
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'd bet John is talking about Camp Butner.  That's near his stomping
>>>> grounds.
>>>>
>>>> Charlie
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Al Jones" <aljones at ncfreedom.net>
>>>> To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 2:44 PM
>>>> Subject: RE: [AT] funny..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> John, What base was that?
>>>>>
>>>>> Down here at the coast, some of my wife's family was displaced when
>> they
>>>>> built Camp Davis at Holly Ridge.  TRACTOR CONTENT: A history
>> instructor
>>>>> at Cape Fear Community College has just written a good book about
>> the
>>>>> history of the base.  His father was Wilbur Tyndall, who owned the
>> JD
>>>>> museum in Pink Hill.  Small world.
>>>>>
>>>>> My Granddaddy and great-Granddaddy got jobs as carpenters
>> constructing
>>>>> the base.  Not much is left today, the base was closed after the
>> war.
>>>>> Camp Lejune owns most of the land now but the air strip is still
>> back
>>>>> there in the woods, I am told, and you can still spy a brick chimney
>>>>> here and there from the base.
>>>>>
>>>>> Al
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of John Hall
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 5:14 PM
>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] funny..
>>>>>
>>>>> Come to think of it I believe I have an uncle buried on what used to
>> be
>>>>> his
>>>>> family's farm. His wife however was buried in a church cemetery.
>>>>>
>>>>> WWII dislodged all of my grandmothers family. Uncle Sam needed the
>> land
>>>>> for
>>>>> a military base/POW camp. Anyhow there were several old cemetery's
>>>>> there.
>>>>> They didn't move them but didn't do a whole lot to upkeep them
>> either.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some of which are now on property owned by the state.
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
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