[AT] funny..

Tue Oct 31 18:07:27 PST 2006

Actually they are in the next county over, Granville. A good lawyer is more 
than likely not enough--we are talking going head to head with the military. 
I ahven't heard of anyone getting hurt on the ammo but the stuff still runs 
up.

John
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "charlie hill" <chill8 at cox.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] funny..

> Those homeowners need a GOOD lawyer!  Remind me never to take an appraisal 
> assignment in your county.
>
> Charlie
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Hall" <jthall at worldnet.att.net>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 9:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [AT] funny..
>
>
>> Definetly going to have to check that one out!!!!
>>
>> The problem with the ordinance here is that the patches of woods it used 
>> to lie in are now housing developments. Big old mess, part due to the 
>> obvious dangers and partly due to the fact the homeowners literally can't 
>> sell their homes and the government won't buy them from them either. Of 
>> course the poor folks still have to make mortgage payments or ruin their 
>> credit. There is another group saying Uncle Sam buried a lot of stuff 
>> that they shouldn't have.
>>
>> To make this somewhat tractor related, during WWII my grandfather was 
>> given enough gas stamps for his tractor that they at least didn't run out 
>> of gas to use for the trucks moving the farm. He didn't lie about his 
>> tractor gas usage. When they asked did he have a tractor that ran on gas 
>> he said yes. Guess he figured it was their job to know that was only for 
>> cranking!!!!
>>
>> John
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Al Jones" <aljones at ncfreedom.net>
>> To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'" 
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 6:16 PM
>> Subject: RE: [AT] funny..
>>
>>
>>> YES! I heard about this for the first time a couple years ago.  The site
>>> is not too far off of NC Hwy. 111, on the way to Junebug Green's salvage
>>> yard!
>>>
>>> Al
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of charlie hill
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 9:12 PM
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] funny..
>>>
>>> Heck John,
>>>
>>> Don't feel bad about the unexploded ordinance.  Over in Wayne county,
>>> about
>>> 2/3 of the way from your place towards mine, there is an atomic bomb
>>> burried
>>> in a field!  It fell off of a B52 near Seymour  Johnson AFB.   They know
>>>
>>> about where it is but it is deep in the ground.  The government has a
>>> chain
>>> link fence around the area where they think it is.  The only Internet
>>> reference I could find quickly is copied below.  CBS 60 Minutes did a
>>> story
>>> about it some time back.
>>>
>>> "24 January 1961
>>> A B-52 bomber suffered structural failure and disintegrated in mid-air
>>> 12
>>> miles north of Seymour Johnson Air Force Base in Goldsboro, NC,
>>> releasing
>>> two hydrogen bombs. Five crewmen parachuted to safety, while three
>>> others
>>> died when the aircraft exploded in mid-air. The bombs jettisoned as the
>>> plane descended, one parachuting to earth intact, the other plunging
>>> deep
>>> into waterlogged farmland. To this day, parts of the nuclear bomb remain
>>>
>>> embedded deep in the muck. The area is off-limits, and is tested
>>> regularly
>>> for radiation releases. More information can be found at the Broken
>>> Arrow:
>>> Goldsboro, NC site at www.ibiblio.org/bomb"
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "John Hall" <jthall at worldnet.att.net>
>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 7:32 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] funny..
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yep, Camp Butner alright. Don't know when they abandoned it after the
>>> war
>>>> but it wasn't long after to the best of my understanding. All the
>>> original
>>>> roads in that town still carry their military names. There are still
>>>> several bunkers in the woods. And lots of unexploded ordinance
>>>> remaining----the army is still fighting that problem. To this day most
>>> of
>>>> the families who were displaced still get hot under the collar when
>>>> talking about it. It's not so much of having to give up your farm to
>>> help
>>>> the good of the country but it is how they were treated. My
>>> grandfather
>>>> was more sawmiller than farmer. If he wasn't in the field then he was
>>> in
>>>> the woods logging. Upon receiving his eviction notice one of the
>>>> stipulations was that he was not to cut down another tree effective
>>>> immedialtely. The house they were living in was 4 years old---it
>>> became an
>>>> officers club. My dad, who was 12 yrs old, pulled every bit of wiring
>>> out
>>>> of the house. Every screen was pulled off the windows. Anything they
>>> could
>>>> take with them they did. Trying to move a farming operation and
>>> working on
>>>> 2 farms a considerable distance apart took its toll healthwise on my
>>>> grandfather. He died the same year they moved here. Afterwards dad
>>> quit
>>>> school to help his mother farm. Fortunatley they had several tennants.
>>>
>>>> Then again this cost them when the allotment for tobacco progarm began
>>>
>>>> since most of the tennants were not high yield producers. Supposedly
>>> the
>>>> feds were going to allow them the chance to buy back their land but
>>> never
>>>> did. The state got first crack at it. They bought it and then
>>> proceeded to
>>>> cut the timber. Talk about adding insult to injury!!!  The area my
>>> dad's
>>>> family was from was known as Veazey Ridge. The newspaper headline in
>>> '42
>>>> read "For the first time in 200 years there are no Veazey's on Veazey
>>>> ridge". Well, we've been here for the past 60 years although the farm
>>> is
>>>> down from 600 to just 60 acres. To the best of my knowledge most of
>>> the
>>>> Veazeys are out of farming. Not exactly genealogy, but its my way of
>>>> tracking part of my family.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "charlie hill" <chill8 at cox.net>
>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 4:02 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] funny..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I'd bet John is talking about Camp Butner.  That's near his stomping
>>>>> grounds.
>>>>>
>>>>> Charlie
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Al Jones" <aljones at ncfreedom.net>
>>>>> To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 2:44 PM
>>>>> Subject: RE: [AT] funny..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> John, What base was that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Down here at the coast, some of my wife's family was displaced when
>>> they
>>>>>> built Camp Davis at Holly Ridge.  TRACTOR CONTENT: A history
>>> instructor
>>>>>> at Cape Fear Community College has just written a good book about
>>> the
>>>>>> history of the base.  His father was Wilbur Tyndall, who owned the
>>> JD
>>>>>> museum in Pink Hill.  Small world.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My Granddaddy and great-Granddaddy got jobs as carpenters
>>> constructing
>>>>>> the base.  Not much is left today, the base was closed after the
>>> war.
>>>>>> Camp Lejune owns most of the land now but the air strip is still
>>> back
>>>>>> there in the woods, I am told, and you can still spy a brick chimney
>>>>>> here and there from the base.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Al
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>>>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of John Hall
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 5:14 PM
>>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] funny..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Come to think of it I believe I have an uncle buried on what used to
>>> be
>>>>>> his
>>>>>> family's farm. His wife however was buried in a church cemetery.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WWII dislodged all of my grandmothers family. Uncle Sam needed the
>>> land
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> a military base/POW camp. Anyhow there were several old cemetery's
>>>>>> there.
>>>>>> They didn't move them but didn't do a whole lot to upkeep them
>>> either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some of which are now on property owned by the state.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
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