[AT] funny..

Mon Oct 30 18:03:11 PST 2006

Definetly going to have to check that one out!!!!

The problem with the ordinance here is that the patches of woods it used to 
lie in are now housing developments. Big old mess, part due to the obvious 
dangers and partly due to the fact the homeowners literally can't sell their 
homes and the government won't buy them from them either. Of course the poor 
folks still have to make mortgage payments or ruin their credit. There is 
another group saying Uncle Sam buried a lot of stuff that they shouldn't 
have.

To make this somewhat tractor related, during WWII my grandfather was given 
enough gas stamps for his tractor that they at least didn't run out of gas 
to use for the trucks moving the farm. He didn't lie about his tractor gas 
usage. When they asked did he have a tractor that ran on gas he said yes. 
Guess he figured it was their job to know that was only for cranking!!!!

John
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Al Jones" <aljones at ncfreedom.net>
To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'" 
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Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 6:16 PM
Subject: RE: [AT] funny..

> YES! I heard about this for the first time a couple years ago.  The site
> is not too far off of NC Hwy. 111, on the way to Junebug Green's salvage
> yard!
>
> Al
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of charlie hill
> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 9:12 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] funny..
>
> Heck John,
>
> Don't feel bad about the unexploded ordinance.  Over in Wayne county,
> about
> 2/3 of the way from your place towards mine, there is an atomic bomb
> burried
> in a field!  It fell off of a B52 near Seymour  Johnson AFB.   They know
>
> about where it is but it is deep in the ground.  The government has a
> chain
> link fence around the area where they think it is.  The only Internet
> reference I could find quickly is copied below.  CBS 60 Minutes did a
> story
> about it some time back.
>
> "24 January 1961
> A B-52 bomber suffered structural failure and disintegrated in mid-air
> 12
> miles north of Seymour Johnson Air Force Base in Goldsboro, NC,
> releasing
> two hydrogen bombs. Five crewmen parachuted to safety, while three
> others
> died when the aircraft exploded in mid-air. The bombs jettisoned as the
> plane descended, one parachuting to earth intact, the other plunging
> deep
> into waterlogged farmland. To this day, parts of the nuclear bomb remain
>
> embedded deep in the muck. The area is off-limits, and is tested
> regularly
> for radiation releases. More information can be found at the Broken
> Arrow:
> Goldsboro, NC site at www.ibiblio.org/bomb"
>
> Charlie
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Hall" <jthall at worldnet.att.net>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 7:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [AT] funny..
>
>
>> Yep, Camp Butner alright. Don't know when they abandoned it after the
> war
>> but it wasn't long after to the best of my understanding. All the
> original
>> roads in that town still carry their military names. There are still
>> several bunkers in the woods. And lots of unexploded ordinance
>> remaining----the army is still fighting that problem. To this day most
> of
>> the families who were displaced still get hot under the collar when
>> talking about it. It's not so much of having to give up your farm to
> help
>> the good of the country but it is how they were treated. My
> grandfather
>> was more sawmiller than farmer. If he wasn't in the field then he was
> in
>> the woods logging. Upon receiving his eviction notice one of the
>> stipulations was that he was not to cut down another tree effective
>> immedialtely. The house they were living in was 4 years old---it
> became an
>> officers club. My dad, who was 12 yrs old, pulled every bit of wiring
> out
>> of the house. Every screen was pulled off the windows. Anything they
> could
>> take with them they did. Trying to move a farming operation and
> working on
>> 2 farms a considerable distance apart took its toll healthwise on my
>> grandfather. He died the same year they moved here. Afterwards dad
> quit
>> school to help his mother farm. Fortunatley they had several tennants.
>
>> Then again this cost them when the allotment for tobacco progarm began
>
>> since most of the tennants were not high yield producers. Supposedly
> the
>> feds were going to allow them the chance to buy back their land but
> never
>> did. The state got first crack at it. They bought it and then
> proceeded to
>> cut the timber. Talk about adding insult to injury!!!  The area my
> dad's
>> family was from was known as Veazey Ridge. The newspaper headline in
> '42
>> read "For the first time in 200 years there are no Veazey's on Veazey
>> ridge". Well, we've been here for the past 60 years although the farm
> is
>> down from 600 to just 60 acres. To the best of my knowledge most of
> the
>> Veazeys are out of farming. Not exactly genealogy, but its my way of
>> tracking part of my family.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "charlie hill" <chill8 at cox.net>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 4:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] funny..
>>
>>
>>> I'd bet John is talking about Camp Butner.  That's near his stomping
>>> grounds.
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Al Jones" <aljones at ncfreedom.net>
>>> To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 2:44 PM
>>> Subject: RE: [AT] funny..
>>>
>>>
>>>> John, What base was that?
>>>>
>>>> Down here at the coast, some of my wife's family was displaced when
> they
>>>> built Camp Davis at Holly Ridge.  TRACTOR CONTENT: A history
> instructor
>>>> at Cape Fear Community College has just written a good book about
> the
>>>> history of the base.  His father was Wilbur Tyndall, who owned the
> JD
>>>> museum in Pink Hill.  Small world.
>>>>
>>>> My Granddaddy and great-Granddaddy got jobs as carpenters
> constructing
>>>> the base.  Not much is left today, the base was closed after the
> war.
>>>> Camp Lejune owns most of the land now but the air strip is still
> back
>>>> there in the woods, I am told, and you can still spy a brick chimney
>>>> here and there from the base.
>>>>
>>>> Al
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of John Hall
>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 5:14 PM
>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] funny..
>>>>
>>>> Come to think of it I believe I have an uncle buried on what used to
> be
>>>> his
>>>> family's farm. His wife however was buried in a church cemetery.
>>>>
>>>> WWII dislodged all of my grandmothers family. Uncle Sam needed the
> land
>>>> for
>>>> a military base/POW camp. Anyhow there were several old cemetery's
>>>> there.
>>>> They didn't move them but didn't do a whole lot to upkeep them
> either.
>>>>
>>>> Some of which are now on property owned by the state.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
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