[AJD] Power Lift Serial Number vs Tractor Serial Number????

[Patricia Stangeland]

Just reporting in a Power Lift # -- Tractor Sr.# of a
1945 GM as it is today. 

   Tractor Ser. # 14,910
   Power Lift   # PLG 16,614
     

--- Jim Showers <steamcar at hereintown.net> wrote:

> In looking at Malcom's book "A Specialized Look Into
> the Unstyled Model A" 
> there were 3 different power lifts used.  Each being
> a progressive 
> improvement over the other.  The last the AA1100 was
> very popular and was 
> also sold for a retrofit to older tractors.  The
> serial number range was 
> from PL30000 to PL60000.  I would guess that after
> 1938, serial numbers were 
> dropped.
> Jim
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dean VP" <deanvp at att.net>
> To: "'Antique John Deere mailing list'" 
> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 5:06 AM
> Subject: RE: [AJD] Power Lift Serial Number vs
> Tractor Serial Number????
> 
> 
> > Jim:
> >
> > I have observed that phenomenon but I haven't
> quite figured out when that
> > occurred. Maybe some more research in the registry
> books I have will
> > determine that. However, if it occurred in the
> early styled series I'm 
> > dead
> > in the water as I don't have the reference
> registry information on any of
> > the styled letter series.
> >
> >
> > Dean A. Van Peursem
> > Snohomish, WA 98290
> >
> > Forbidden fruits create many jams!
> >
> > www.deerelegacy.com
> >
> > http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> >
>
[mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]
> On Behalf Of
> > Jim Showers
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 2:56 PM
> > To: Antique John Deere mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [AJD] Power Lift Serial Number vs
> Tractor Serial Number????
> >
> > I don't recall the year, but at some point, they
> stopped putting serial
> > number tags on the power lifts.
> > Jim
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Dean VP" <deanvp at att.net>
> > To: "'Antique John Deere mailing list'"
> > <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 11:34 PM
> > Subject: RE: [AJD] Power Lift Serial Number vs
> Tractor Serial Number????
> >
> >
> >> Jim:
> >>
> >> Thanks.  I wasn't aware of any direct correlation
> (relationship) between
> >> serial numbers on Power Lifts vs Tractors other
> than I have made an
> >> assumption that the power lift serial numbers
> were issued sequentially 
> >> and
> >> that they were installed on tractors as they came
> down the production
> >> line.
> >> So I also have made an assumption that there is a
> first and last serial
> >> number and that someplace there may have been
> recorded what the first and
> >> last per model year were and maybe even by
> tractor model identification.
> >> Maybe I'm being too optimistic.
> >>
> >> In looking through the Unstyled G Production
> register it appears that the
> >> last Power Lift serial number was recorded on a
> 1939 G shipped in March 
> >> of
> >> 1993 as serial # G 8385 as PL Ser # 2819. But
> there were much higher PL
> >> ser
> >> #'s shipped on earlier G tractors such as 4406
> but in general the highest
> >> PL
> >> ser number shipped with unstyled G's was in the
> low 3000's. Looks like
> >> there
> >> Power Lifts got pretty mixed up within about a
> range of 200 to 300 serial
> >> numbers.
> >>
> >> Now relative to the unstyled B production
> register:   It appears the
> >> highest
> >> serial # PL recorded was 40385 but it was shipped
> much earlier than the
> >> end
> >> of production of the unstyled B's. Lowest PL ser
> # I have found is B138.
> >> The
> >> B prefix appears to have been randomly dropped in
> early 1935.
> >>
> >> I'm not aware that an unstyled A production
> register has been published 
> >> by
> >> Two Cylinder Magazine. Although I assume, they do
> have the data to do so.
> >>
> >> So what is the bottom line of all this? If for
> example you have a missing
> >> serial # tag on an unstyled B or G but it has a
> Power Lift with readable
> >> serial number tag, there is a possibility you
> might be able to identify
> >> what
> >> the tractor serial number might have been.
> Assuming the PL hasn't been
> >> changed or added after factory shipping. Kind of
> shaky grounds but better
> >> than nothing I guess.
> >>
> >> As far as PL ser # ranges to correlate with
> tractor serial number ranges,
> >> it
> >> appears one may only be able to get within a
> couple 100 serial #'s or so
> >> at
> >> best. Not very helpful.
> >>
> >> Hopefully someone on the list can add more
> clarity to this than what I
> >> have
> >> been able to uncover. I would describe the above
> data as having ones feet
> >> firmly planted in mid air.
> >>
> >> I am still very confused as to why the Production
> Registers published by
> >> Two
> >> Cylinder Magazine didn't sell well enough for
> them to publish more. As I
> >> recall, I paid something like $9.00 to $10.00
> each for mine when they had
> >> a
> >> sale on them a few years ago. I would buy any
> additional ones published 
> >> in
> >
> >> a
> >> heartbeat. There is a wealth of knowledge in them
> with value way past
> >> their
> >> purchase cost.  Some things don't compute in this
> area. Was it a 
> >> marketing
> >> issue? Or is the production cost so high that
> there is an unreasonable
> >> breakeven quantity? Got me!
> >>
> >> Dean A. Van Peursem
> >> Snohomish, WA 98290
> >>
> >> Forbidden fruits create many jams!
> >>
> >> www.deerelegacy.com
> >>
> >> http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From:
> antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> >>
>
[mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]
> On Behalf Of
> >> Jim Showers
> >> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 2:56 PM
> >> To: Antique John Deere mailing list
> >> Subject: Re: [AJD] Power Lift Serial Number vs
> Tractor Serial Number????
> >>
> 
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