[AJD] $300 Ebay JD gas cap -Fraud second chances

Tue Nov 8 14:41:12 PST 2005

Garrell
Someone is always watching, just not who you think. Paranoid, just cautious.
Brad

G.Dombaugh wrote:

> Brad:
> Good advice......
> I have and do send all the fraud attempts back to eBay and or PayPal 
> (one and the same now).
> There seems to be an abundance of fraud attempts to get your login ID and
> other ID information lately.  I receive about 3-4 attempts per day. 
> However, I have sent some
> of the same FRAUD attempts to eBay as many as 10-12 times and I still 
> get them.
> Guess they have not caught up with the guilty party yet.
> I guess they are the Terrorist of the internet. Who knows...?
>
> Just because I am paranoid, doesn't mean that some one is not 
> watching.... LOL
>
> Garrell
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wiebelhaus" <bwiebelhaus at cox.net>
> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list" 
> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 3:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [AJD] $300 Ebay JD gas cap -Fraud second chances
>
>
>> You can and should email the fradulent offers to Ebay. They have 
>> department that will check on the problem and take appropriate 
>> action. They have information on how to spot fraud and like the 
>> earlier post indicated, a different seller. I have had two of these 
>> attempts in the last three weeks. Both on tractors that had much 
>> higher bids.
>> Brad
>>
>> Ed Allandar wrote:
>>
>>> Garrell's right.
>>> I had the same thing happen to me with a hit & miss engine last 
>>> week. I knew
>>> the seller, form dealing with him in the past. Auction closed and 
>>> about 5
>>> days later I received a 2nd chance offer, but it was a different 
>>> seller.
>>> Looked at the seller's history, he had six different seller aliases 
>>> in the
>>> past year, and they were in France, not good old Pennsylvania.
>>> The other interesting thing was the fraudulent seller had a series of
>>> positive feedbacks on each seller profile, but when you looked at 
>>> them they
>>> were all from the same bidder.
>>> Buyers beware.
>>> Ed
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>> [mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]  On 
>>> Behalf Of
>>> G.Dombaugh
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 9:33 AM
>>> To: Antique John Deere mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [AJD] $300 Ebay JD gas cap -Fraud second chances
>>>
>>> Good Morning all....
>>> Be very careful of the "Second Chance" offers, especially on the higher
>>> ticket items.
>>> About a 6 months ago I bid $2150.00 for a like new (but older) 345 
>>> JD mower.
>>> The mower sold
>>> for something like $3100.00.  I get this official looking email that 
>>> had
>>> eBay's name on it
>>> giving me a "second chance" offer at my price. (Obviously, this 
>>> didn't sound
>>> quite right.)
>>> Since I had already spoken to the seller once, I called him back and 
>>> the
>>> "second chance" offer did not come from him.  It was a FRAUD offer that
>>> requested my immediate payment to secure the mower and they would even
>>> pay the freight to my location to make it more enticing.  If I had 
>>> sent the
>>> money I would have been out
>>> the $2150.00 with NO MOWER.     .... eBay confirmed that it was a FRAUD
>>> offer....
>>>
>>> Garrell Dombaugh
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Chris C" <jdnutinwa at yahoo.com>
>>> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
>>> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:41 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [AJD] $300 Ebay JD gas cap
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I am quite sure that I have had this happen to me on more than one
>>>> occasion.  That is why I do not accept second chance offers unless I
>>>> absolutely have to have it and/or the price is still too good to 
>>>> pass up.
>>>>
>>>>            Chris
>>>>
>>>> Bus Driver <mpmbd at yadtel.net> wrote:
>>>> To second what Spencer has said, I think I discovered a sly shill
>>>> technique
>>>> on eBay. Suppose an item starts with $1.00 minimum bid. You are first
>>>> bidder
>>>> and bid $9.95 as your maximum bid and Ebay posts your intial bid of 
>>>> $1.00.
>>>> Couple of other bidders bring it up to $5.95 and you are still high
>>>> bidder.
>>>> Seller wonders how much you really did bid. So his shill bids until 
>>>> shill
>>>> is
>>>> the highest bidder. Auction ends. Now seller knows your maximum bid 
>>>> and
>>>> sends you "second chance" offer of the item at $9.95. Since you had
>>>> already
>>>> committed to that amount, you probably will buy it at $9.95. I 
>>>> think this
>>>> was pulled on me once.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Spencer Yost"
>>>> To:
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 8:29 PM
>>>> Subject: Re[2]: [AJD] $300 Ebay JD gas cap
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I don't know the seller and I am specifically NOT accusing him of 
>>>>> this,
>>>>>
>>>> but
>>>>
>>>>> items like this, that go for more than they could ever be worth on 
>>>>> their
>>>>> best day, remind me to mention this: Watch for shill/push bidding. 
>>>>> The
>>>>> practice is very common on Ebay - no, let me re-phrase that: It is 
>>>>> VERY,
>>>>> VERY common....
>>>>>
>>>>> Spencer Yost
>>>>> Owner, ATIS
>>>>> Plow the Net!
>>>>> http://www.atis.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/6/2005 at 10:58 PM greg at theoldtractorcompany.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> OMG yet again
>>>>>> This is the cap I had written an article about some time ago.
>>>>>> I have two of thes caps in my collection, lucky me I guess
>>>>>> Wow, that is completely unreal I think
>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greg Stephen
>>>>>> The Old Tractor Company
>>>>>> Stephen Equipment Company
>>>>>> PO Box 709
>>>>>> Franktown, CO 80116
>>>>>> 303-663-5246
>>>>>> 303-468-0377 FAX<<--GREAT WAY TO REACH ME!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun Nov 6 19:39 , 'Dean VP' sent:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep, that is cool. I seem to recall my Dad having one in the 
>>>>>>> 40's or
>>>>>>>
>>>>> 50's.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> It may be a Fig Newton of my imagination. However, just think 
>>>>>>> what $300
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> can
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> really buy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dean A. Van Peursem
>>>>>>> Snohomish, WA 98290
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Forbidden fruits create many jams!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> www.deerelegacy.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> [antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com','','','')">antique- 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> j
>>>
>>>>> ohndeere-
>>>>>
>>>>>> bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris C
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 5:59 PM
>>>>>>> To: ATIS LIST
>>>>>>> Subject: [AJD] $300 Ebay JD gas cap
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I had $300 burning a hole in my pocket I think I
>>>>>>> would buy this just to have it! Check out Ebay item
>>>>>>> #7560234025
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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