[AJD] $300 Ebay JD gas cap -Fraud second chances

Tue Nov 8 14:17:25 PST 2005

Brad:
Good advice......
I have and do send all the fraud attempts back to eBay and or PayPal (one 
and the same now).
There seems to be an abundance of fraud attempts to get your login ID and
other ID information lately.  I receive about 3-4 attempts per day. 
However, I have sent some
of the same FRAUD attempts to eBay as many as 10-12 times and I still get 
them.
Guess they have not caught up with the guilty party yet.
I guess they are the Terrorist of the internet. Who knows...?

Just because I am paranoid, doesn't mean that some one is not watching.... 
LOL

Garrell

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wiebelhaus" <bwiebelhaus at cox.net>
To: "Antique John Deere mailing list" 
<antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [AJD] $300 Ebay JD gas cap -Fraud second chances

> You can and should email the fradulent offers to Ebay. They have 
> department that will check on the problem and take appropriate action. 
> They have information on how to spot fraud and like the earlier post 
> indicated, a different seller. I have had two of these attempts in the 
> last three weeks. Both on tractors that had much higher bids.
> Brad
>
> Ed Allandar wrote:
>
>>Garrell's right.
>>I had the same thing happen to me with a hit & miss engine last week. I 
>>knew
>>the seller, form dealing with him in the past. Auction closed and about 5
>>days later I received a 2nd chance offer, but it was a different seller.
>>Looked at the seller's history, he had six different seller aliases in the
>>past year, and they were in France, not good old Pennsylvania.
>>The other interesting thing was the fraudulent seller had a series of
>>positive feedbacks on each seller profile, but when you looked at them 
>>they
>>were all from the same bidder.
>>Buyers beware.
>>Ed
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>[mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]  On Behalf Of
>>G.Dombaugh
>>Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 9:33 AM
>>To: Antique John Deere mailing list
>>Subject: Re: Re[2]: [AJD] $300 Ebay JD gas cap -Fraud second chances
>>
>>Good Morning all....
>>Be very careful of the "Second Chance" offers, especially on the higher
>>ticket items.
>>About a 6 months ago I bid $2150.00 for a like new (but older) 345 JD 
>>mower.
>>The mower sold
>>for something like $3100.00.  I get this official looking email that had
>>eBay's name on it
>>giving me a "second chance" offer at my price. (Obviously, this didn't 
>>sound
>>quite right.)
>> Since I had already spoken to the seller once, I called him back and the
>>"second chance" offer did not come from him.  It was a FRAUD offer that
>>requested my immediate payment to secure the mower and they would even
>>pay the freight to my location to make it more enticing.  If I had sent 
>>the
>>money I would have been out
>>the $2150.00 with NO MOWER.     .... eBay confirmed that it was a FRAUD
>>offer....
>>
>>Garrell Dombaugh
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Chris C" <jdnutinwa at yahoo.com>
>>To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
>><antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:41 PM
>>Subject: Re: Re[2]: [AJD] $300 Ebay JD gas cap
>>
>>
>>
>>>I am quite sure that I have had this happen to me on more than one
>>>occasion.  That is why I do not accept second chance offers unless I
>>>absolutely have to have it and/or the price is still too good to pass up.
>>>
>>>            Chris
>>>
>>>Bus Driver <mpmbd at yadtel.net> wrote:
>>>To second what Spencer has said, I think I discovered a sly shill
>>>technique
>>>on eBay. Suppose an item starts with $1.00 minimum bid. You are first
>>>bidder
>>>and bid $9.95 as your maximum bid and Ebay posts your intial bid of 
>>>$1.00.
>>>Couple of other bidders bring it up to $5.95 and you are still high
>>>bidder.
>>>Seller wonders how much you really did bid. So his shill bids until shill
>>>is
>>>the highest bidder. Auction ends. Now seller knows your maximum bid and
>>>sends you "second chance" offer of the item at $9.95. Since you had
>>>already
>>>committed to that amount, you probably will buy it at $9.95. I think this
>>>was pulled on me once.
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Spencer Yost"
>>>To:
>>>Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 8:29 PM
>>>Subject: Re[2]: [AJD] $300 Ebay JD gas cap
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I don't know the seller and I am specifically NOT accusing him of this,
>>>>
>>>but
>>>
>>>>items like this, that go for more than they could ever be worth on their
>>>>best day, remind me to mention this: Watch for shill/push bidding. The
>>>>practice is very common on Ebay - no, let me re-phrase that: It is VERY,
>>>>VERY common....
>>>>
>>>>Spencer Yost
>>>>Owner, ATIS
>>>>Plow the Net!
>>>>http://www.atis.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
>>>>
>>>>On 11/6/2005 at 10:58 PM greg at theoldtractorcompany.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>OMG yet again
>>>>>This is the cap I had written an article about some time ago.
>>>>>I have two of thes caps in my collection, lucky me I guess
>>>>>Wow, that is completely unreal I think
>>>>>Greg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Greg Stephen
>>>>>The Old Tractor Company
>>>>>Stephen Equipment Company
>>>>>PO Box 709
>>>>>Franktown, CO 80116
>>>>>303-663-5246
>>>>>303-468-0377 FAX<<--GREAT WAY TO REACH ME!
>>>>>
>>>>>On Sun Nov 6 19:39 , 'Dean VP' sent:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Chris:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yep, that is cool. I seem to recall my Dad having one in the 40's or
>>>>>>
>>>>50's.
>>>>
>>>>>>It may be a Fig Newton of my imagination. However, just think what 
>>>>>>$300
>>>>>>
>>>>>can
>>>>>
>>>>>>really buy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dean A. Van Peursem
>>>>>>Snohomish, WA 98290
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Forbidden fruits create many jams!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>www.deerelegacy.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>[antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com','','','')">antique-
>>>>>
>>j
>>
>>>>ohndeere-
>>>>
>>>>>bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>>
>>>>>>Chris C
>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 5:59 PM
>>>>>>To: ATIS LIST
>>>>>>Subject: [AJD] $300 Ebay JD gas cap
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If I had $300 burning a hole in my pocket I think I
>>>>>>would buy this just to have it! Check out Ebay item
>>>>>>#7560234025
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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