Bargains was Re: [AT] OT-Problem with Cub Cadet 1641

carl gogol cgogol at twcny.rr.com
Tue Sep 14 17:03:06 PDT 2004


I should have said - "factory" remanufactured.  There was just a little sign
of wear on the bar - the paint was starting to wear away the marking;
Carl
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From: "Larry D. Goss" <rlgoss at evansville.net>
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Subject: RE: Bargains was Re: [AT] OT-Problem with Cub Cadet 1641


> Well, you just never know how much the contractor did to "remanufacture"
> that saw.  It may not have seen anything except a new bar, chain, and
> spark plug plus a session with a pressure washer.
>
> Larry
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of carl gogol
> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 8:14 PM
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>
> When I said I started it and let it set for a several months - that is
> all I
> did.  Started it, reved it a few times and put it away.  About that
> fast.
> Now it was a remanufactured saw - read that used a little and returned
> for
> some reason.  After the plug was changed, I ran it successfully with the
> same oil mix as I originally started it with.  I am thinking that I
> bought
> it with the carbon chunk already there - or someone intentionally put it
> there to have an excuse to return it after doing a small job with it.
> Carl Gogol
> Manlius, NY
> (2) AC D-14, AC 914H
> Simplicity 3112 & 7116
> Kubota F-2400
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Larry D. Goss" <rlgoss at evansville.net>
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>
>
> > Well, there are lots of things that can cause big carbon chunks, Carl,
> > but typically that hard flaky stuff is from burning oil.  It can
> happen
> > fairly quickly in a 2-cycle engine that is either running with too
> much
> > oil in the mix or with the WRONG oil for the engine.  Yes, there are
> > differences!  You DON'T want to run just any old 2-cycle oil in most
> > "modern" 2-cycle engines.  There were even obvious differences in
> > performance as far back as the 70's.  I used to get Lawn-Boy mowers in
> > the shop that were hard to start and wouldn't rev up to full rpm.  I
> > would turn them on their side, disassemble the muffler, and ream out
> the
> > exhaust ports with a big hairy screwdriver.  When it went back
> together,
> > they took off like a new engine.
> >
> > Nowadays, it's string trimmers, chain saws, and hedge trimmers that I
> > see -- same problem, different solution.  If the muffler can be
> > disassembled, I do that and burn the carbon out of the screen with a
> > reducing flame on a torch.  If it can't be taken apart to get at the
> > screen, then you can essentially kiss the whole unit "goodbye."
> Getting
> > a replacement muffler is usually financially prohibitive, and trying
> to
> > "burn out" the muffler either with heat or chemicals is a lost cause.
> >
> > Two-cycle mixtures are not something to mess around with.  Don't even
> > think about filing a warranty claim on a 2-cycle engine if you haven't
> > followed the manufacturer's recommendations on brand of oil and
> mixture.
> > Some manufacturers are doing chemical analysis on the residue left in
> > the engine before they allow repairs or replacement.
> >
> > End soapbox mode.
> >
> > Let the flames begin.
> >
> > Larry
> >
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> > DAVIESW739 at aol.com
> > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 8:02 PM
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> > Subject: Re: Bargains was Re: [AT] OT-Problem with Cub Cadet 1641
> >
> > In a message dated 9/9/2004 5:34:51 PM Pacific  Daylight Time,
> > cgogol at twcny.rr.com writes:
> > How do carbon
> > chunks that large  form?  -- crap from the spark arrestor or what?
> > Carl  Gogol
> >
> > running the mixer to rich will carbon up any engine. You een to  have
> > the
> > carb adjusted properly.
> >
> > I just rebuilt the carb on my LA it was  causing the plugs to foul its
> > works
> > great now even with the wheel firming buring  in muck up to the axel.
> > Giggle
> > well I guess next time I won't go that way.  anyway my friend is
> > bringing his
> > big tractor over tomorrow to help pull it out.  I hope we can anyway
> > that
> > things weighs over 8900 lbs and she is stuck plenty  good in that
> muck.
> >
> > Walt Davies
> > Cooper Hollow Farm
> > Monmouth, OR  97361
> > 503 623-0460
> >
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