[AJD] Plow for B

Sun Oct 17 12:37:46 PDT 2004

Spencer, I have never figured out JD's rational for plow model numbering
other than there seems to be a progression followed:

4, 4A, 4B, 4D, 44, 44A, 444 etc

5, 55, 555, etc

6, 66, 666

7, 77, 777

But the numbers don't have meaning in the sense of the number of bottoms
except for the 51 (one bottom) and the 52 (two bottom) and the 51 and 52
don't seem to follow any family progression.

In the context of the JD era we are discussing, integral means a plow that
is mounted under the front frame rails of a tricycle tractor, pivoted and
the beams are slung under the rear axles and eventually the plow bottoms are
attached to the beams. They are either lifted with a hand lever, the rocker
arm or a hydraulic cylinder.

The 4's and 52's are classic collector two bottom plows but I have seen very
few of these in 12" bottom configuration. This may be different in your
area. The highest volume of plows are either 2 x 14" or 2 x 16" in the
Midwest or WA. You may be out looking for wheel weights for the 1939B when
pulling a two bottom plow, especially the land wheel. Compatible period
correct wheel weights for the 1939B are fairly common. 

I own two 101A plows and one 101 two way single bottom plow tag along. One
of the 101A's is on rubber tires (4 x 21"). Try to find used tires in that
size that have lugs so that the trip lift mechanism works. ME Miller sells
new ones for $150 each. Wow, $300 in tires for a stinking plow. I use knobby
motorcycle tires. I also found a set of new automobile tires in that size.
If those need to be used tire chains will be employed. I plan to use the
101A plow as a parade item behind the 40B or 42H. It is a bit unique. I'm
not very impressed with how the 101's are made. They are bit flimsy and
wobbly. JD made a two and three bottom versions of these two way plows too,
a model 202 and 303 which came out after your B did. Two or three bottoms
each way. They are mechanical monsters with trip or hydraulic lift. The
model 4's and the 51 or 52 are sturdily built.

Dean A. Van Peursem

Snohomish, WA 98290

I'm a walking storeroom of facts..... I've just lost the key to the
storeroom door 

www.deerelegacy.com

http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
Spencer Yost
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 10:30 AM
To: antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com
Subject: Re[2]: [AJD] Plow for B

Wow!  I didn't realize the choice would be so hard.   It looks as if I was

way wrong on the 44 also.   I really thought that plow came out in the late

1930s.  A couple of questions:

1 - Is there a rhyme and reason to the numbers?  In other words, does a

"4B" tell me something different than a "52" - other than its different (-;

2 - When you mention integral plows, I assume you mean the hydraulically

raised and the 3 point carried plows.

My criterion includes staying away from two way plows and integral plows.

Trailer plows are much handier for a B that doesn't include a rock-shaft or

wet lines (-;  I would really prefer two bottom plows also.  Adding my

original criterion of having to be a plow in production for the 1939 model

year, I am narrowing the list down to:

>4B, 4C - 1935 to 1949

>4D - 1938 to 1949

>52 - 1934 to 1947

Sounds like any of these in 12" bottoms would do the trick.   If anyone

else has some additional data, stories, input, etc I would appreciate

hearing them.

Spencer Yost

Owner, ATIS

Plow the Net!

http://www.atis.net

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