[AT] IH cub

bwhdon acton at onramp.bz
Mon Jun 14 20:18:48 PDT 2004 

Thanks George!

Don


----- Original Message -----
From: "George Willer" <gwill at toast.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 7:54 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] IH cub


> Don,
>
> The PTO popping out of gear is a different problem, but much easier to
> repair.  It can be done through the rear cover.  A lot has been written
> about it and should be in the archives.
>
> You will replace P/N 351 287 R11 (lever)and possibly P/N 351 286 R2
> (clutch).   The modification to the shaft will require precision grinding
a
> few thou off to fit the bore of a ND 3L04 or SKF 6004.  Either will fit
the
> case without modification.
>
> George
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "bwhdon" <acton at onramp.bz>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 9:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [AT] IH cub
>
>
> > George,
> >
> > Would that cause the pto to pop out of gear when mowing? the noise sound
> > like it is in the rear bearing to me . what is your modification for the
> > bearing when you get the time. I kinda if your running 2 with the noise
> > maybe your not so load therory is one to consider.
> >
> > Don
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "George Willer" <gwill at toast.net>
> > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 6:13 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AT] IH cub
> >
> >
> > > Mike,
> > >
> > > Cecil has had the second Cub for only a short while, but I think he's
> been
> > > responsible for maintaining Lucille's Cub for a while.  :-)
> > >
> > > The main transmission shaft has two bearings.  (and the PTO shaft
> bushing)
> > > The front one and its' seal are subject to corrosion problems if the
> hand
> > > hole cover is left off and the mice build a nest in the torque tube.
> The
> > > rear one is more likely to be the noisemaker due to its' poor design.
> > It's
> > > a roller bearing running directly on the shaft, and the shaft surface
> > > wears... leaving no way to replace it with original parts unless the
> shaft
> > > is also replaced.  Some of us have done a modification to the shaft
that
> > > allows using a real bearing.
> > >
> > > I'll be taking two Cubs to the Cub Fest that have the noise problem.
> When
> > I
> > > think about the work required to make the noise go away, it doesn't
seem
> > so
> > > loud!
> > >
> > > George Willer
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Mike Sloane" <msloane at att.net>
> > > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 8:20 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [AT] IH cub
> > >
> > >
> > > > Cecil has had a Cub for 2 months now, and suddenly he is an expert.
> :-)
> > > > Actually, what he described is the clutch release "bearing", which
is
> > > > not a typical roller bearing but a carbon-like ring that gets
greased
> > > > (by most Cub owners) once every 10 years or so. :-)
> > > >
> > > > Based on the description of the noise, I am sorry to say that it
> sounds
> > > > like the front transmission bearing. Have you checked the level of
> fluid
> > > > in the transmission? It could just be dry. Unfortunately, checking
out
> > > > the play in the bearing cannot (as far as I know) be done without
> > > > splitting the tractor and wiggling the input shaft. Splitting the
> > > > tractor and replacing the bearing isn't all that big a deal in a
Cub,
> > > > and the service manual for the Cub gives you step by step directions
> > > > that are easy to follow. If you leave the clutch alone, you should
be
> > > > able to do the whole job in a (shade tree mechanic) day.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > Cecil E Monson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >>> Bigdog,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> any idea what make the noise in the drive line when it is
idling,
> > as
> > > > >>>> soon
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> as
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>> you put the clutch in it stops. Due cubs have a tendency to do
> this
> > > > >>>> or is
> > > > >>>> there a bearing on the main shaft to the trans and then to the
> pto
> > > > >>>> thats
> > > > >>>> causes this ? sounds like its at the pto end of the trans.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Don
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >     There is a bearing that has to be greased from time to time
> behind
> > > > > the clutch on the Cub. Get under the Cub with a flashlight and
look
> up
> > > thru
> > > > > the access hole in the bottom of the torque tube behind the
clutch.
> > You
> > > > > will
> > > > > see a grease fitting up in there. Give it grease with a grease gun
> > until
> > > it
> > > > > comes out the sides. Then run the tractor and play with the
clutch.
> It
> > > may
> > > > > take a couple days for the grease to spread out and cover the
> surfaces
> > > of
> > > > > that bearing but it will eventually do it and the noise will go
> away.
> > > There
> > > > > is a lot of information on the Cub available on line. Go to this
> > website
> > > an
> > > > > and take a look.   http://farmallcub.com/    Also almost every
> manual
> > > you
> > > > > could possibly need is at this website.
> > > > >
> > > > >       http://www.cleancomputes.com/Cub/index.html
> > > > >
> > > > >     Be careful it doesn't get away from you. There is lots of
power
> > > > > in the engine compartment. I don't know if John Deere people
should
> be
> > > > > monkeying with Cubs without some instruction.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cecil
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Mike Sloane
> > > > Allamuchy NJ
> > > > Email: (msloane at att.net)
> > > > Website: <http://www.geocities.com/mikesloane>
> > > > Tractor images: <www.fotki.com/mikesloane>
> > > > Work: none - Retired!
> > > >
> > > > Politics Is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come
> to
> > > > realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.- Ronald
> > > > Reagan, 1911-2004, 40th US President
> > > >
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