[AT] Allis Chalmers B-1 lawn tractor (grown up)

[charlie hill]

Hi Gil,

I just checked.  Swinford's book _Allis Chalmers Construction Machinery and
Industrial Equipment_ has about 30 pages on AC earth movers.  The last 2 or
3 pages of that section is about motor wagons and rear dump wagons.  I think
the machine you are talking about is pictured in that section.  One of the
machines is a 15 CY rear dump, articulated rig that looks like a pan front
end (with a cab) and a big dump body cart on the rear end.   There is
another with no cab that has a 22 CY dump box.

Charlie




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gilbert Schwartz" <gschwartz1 at mchsi.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] Allis Chalmers B-1 lawn tractor


> Charlie; I'm sure you're right. It just seemed strange that Wendel didn't
> even mention the B-1, even when he listed a whole bunch of the other B
> numbers. I really think there's quite a few errors/omissions in the books,
> after all, Allis has been gone for a bunch of years and it seems they, as
a
> company, weren't too dedicated to record keeping. I know there's no
mention
> of an Allis Chalmers off road, industrial/construction dirt/rock hauler
> truck comparable to the TEREX, but I know  where there is one. I think
it's
> just people like us who just keep running into such things.
>     I also know that I have a 7 h.p., 21inch, walk behind lawn mower, I
know
> what it pulls like, and a 17 h.p. 42inch, ha. That 17 wouldn't begin to
pull
> a 60 inch. At least it wouldn't cutting anything. I guess it's just a
matter
> of  machines being different. Gil
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "charlie hill" <chill8 at cox.net>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 8:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Allis Chalmers B-1 lawn tractor
>
>
> > Gil,  the B 10 came after the B 1 according to Swinford.  I'm pretty
sure
> > that is right.  I just never saw a 7 1/4 hp Briggs.  7's yes, 7 1/2 yes
> but
> > the 7 1/4 struck me as strange.
> >
> > I have Wendels book and all of Swinfords AC books.  Swinford is
generally
> > more accurate as far as I can tell.  That is not to kick Mr. Wendel.
His
> > book has been a good source of information too.
> >
> > Charlie
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Gilbert Schwartz" <gschwartz1 at mchsi.com>
> > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 1:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AT] Allis Chalmers B-1 lawn tractor
> >
> >
> > > Charlie; I'm with you on that horsepower being a misprint. 3 spindle,
60
> > > inch just don't fit with 7 1/4 hp, at any speed.
> > > C.H. Wendel says the AC B10 was the earliest, built through 1968 and
it
> > used
> > > a 9 h.p. B&S. Wendel's book also pictures one of the B10's working
with
> a
> > > 32 inch roto-tiller. That too sounds like a mighty big load for a 9
h.p.
> > > engine, especially if the tiller is in the dirt.
> > > Maybe the h.p. ratings are different now than in the 60's. Gil
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Cecil E Monson" <cmonson at hvc.rr.com>
> > > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 10:46 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [AT] Allis Chalmers B-1 lawn tractor
> > >
> > >
> > > > > Cecil,  according to what I can find the B-1 SHOULD have a 7 1/4
hp
> > > Briggs
> > > > > and a 3 speed transmission with speeds of 2, 3.75 and 6 mph.  It
had
> > an
> > > > > optional 50%  underdriven low speed drive.  Implements available
> were:
> > > 42
> > > > > inch rotary mower,  60 inch 3 gang mower, 10 inch moldboard plow,
> > > > > cultivator, disk harrow, 42 inch dozer blade, 42 inch center mount
> > > grader
> > > > > blade, 32 inch tiller, snow thrower, and a sicklebar mower.  It
was
> > made
> > > by
> > > > > Simplicity.
> > > > >
> > > > > Charlie
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, Charlie. I will know more tomorrow but at least I will have
> > > > a good idea what I should be looking for. I'm sure I will have more
to
> > say
> > > > about this tomorrow.
> > > >
> > > > Cecil
> > > > -- 
> > > > The nicest thing about telling the truth is you never have to wonder
> > > > what you said.
> > > >
> > > > Cecil E Monson
> > > > Lucille Hand-Monson
> > > > Mountainville, New York   Just a little east of the North Pole
> > > >
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> > > >
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