[AT] Pitman rivets?

[George Willer]

LARRY!!!

Elmer's carpenter's glue!!!  You have no sympathy for the next guy who has
to work on it.  The most ambitious restoration I did was on a reproducing
grand piano that I think you have seen.  Someone glued the valve blocks
together with Elmer's glue, which made further repairs impossible.  I had to
make up a complete set of tooling to manufacture a whole new set.  This took
several weeks.  All my instrument restorations have been done using the
old-fashioned hot hide glue which fractures under a shock load for easy
repairs.  It's worth the extra effort.

I think you may have also seen the "parlor organ" in the same room that has
been brought back to original playing condition.  The Edison machines that
play 'The Preacher and the Bear' are in the same room.

George

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry D. Goss" <rlgoss at evansville.net>
To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
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Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 6:10 PM
Subject: RE: [AT] Pitman rivets?


> LOL, Farmer.  You sound about as "bent out of shape" as my daughter got
> when I was "restoring" a melodeon for Historic New Harmony.  She's got a
> degree in historic preservation, so she thinks she knows something about
> it.  She read me a riot act because I was going to the trouble to make
> the thing playable again instead of just making it look nice for
> display.  So I put in rubber-lined muslin for the bellows, rebuilt a
> bunch of the key mechanisms, replaced the acoustic cloth, etc with
> materials that were not authentic to the period of manufacture.  I even
> used Elmer's Carpenter Glue!  To hear her talk, you would have thought
> that I'd committed some Cardinal sins.
>
> Speaking of the mix of hex and square bolts, one of the things I've
> acquired over the years is a set of socket wrenches that are specially
> sized to work on the galvanized fasteners that were common on farm
> windmills.  I used them when I was disassembling the F&W model 26 that I
> have in the back yard, but when I put in new fasteners I didn't bother
> trying to find the exact replacements and I was able to use "modern"
> wrenches.
>
> Larry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Robinson
> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 3:42 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: RE: [AT] Pitman rivets?
>
> At 02:30 PM 8/18/04, you wrote:
> >Thanks, George.  I probably will end up making the rivets.  I got a
> >quote from a source on the Internet this morning -- $25 for a box of
> 100
> >plus shipping.  I'll think about it.  When it's all said and done, the
> >only reason for insisting on riveting the pitman together is for the
> >authenticity of the restoration.  If it was just a mower that I was
> >going to put to work, I'd bolt it together and go about getting some
> >mowing done.
> >
> >Larry
> >
>
>
>          No! No! No!... If you want to be authentic as a working mower
> you
> should use a mix of hex nuts and bolts and square head nuts and bolts in
>
> several sizes. That is in all but 2 holes. Those should have a big old
> cotter key through the hole like a bolt on one and in the other there
> should be a huge spike nail just bent over...   ;-)
>
>
> >"farmer"
>
>
> Francis Robinson
> Central Indiana, USA
> robinson at svs.net
>
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