[AT] OT: Thank you Farmer

[charlie hill]

Yep I agree.  But I understood the previous comment  to say someone required
seperate ground rods at least 6 feet apart.
That is strange.

I have a friend who is recently retired from being a regional safety
director for a LARGE timber company.  They have to deal with things like
training crain operators to get to safety if the crane topples over into a
power line, etc.  The proceedure is to hop with  both feet together across
the ground until they are way away from the crane.  The reason for that is
to prevent a huge difference in ground potential that would be caused
between both feet if you walked away.

I don't know.  Just trying to understand.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George Willer" <gwill at toast.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Thank you Farmer


> Charlie,
>
> That's always been my understanding of the NEC as well.  I'm guessing
here,
> but here's a way to have the cake and eat it too... If all grounds came to
a
> common point on one of the ground rods, and then a secondary connection
tied
> the two ground rods together, there would be no conflict.
>
> George Willer
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "charlie hill" <chill8 at cox.net>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 8:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Thank you Farmer
>
>
> > Karl,  Farmers check the ground advice is always a good!  Glad you found
> > your problem.  I am curious about the new code requiring 2 grounds.  I'm
> not
> > arguing it because I don't know that much about electrical matters but I
> > wish someone on the list would explain the logic of that if they know
it.
> >
> > I have always been lead to believe that everything needed to go to a
> common
> > ground to prevent a situation where you have 2 different ground
> potentials.
> > It seems to me that 2 grounds 6 feet apart would be dangerous under the
> > right conditions.  If some one understands this please explain.   I
might
> > need to hook a modem to my tractor some day.  grins.
> >
> > Charlie Hill
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: <HaliganBar at aol.com>
> > To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 9:10 PM
> > Subject: [AT] OT: Thank you Farmer
> >
> >
> > > Farmer, thank you for all your help while I was troubleshooting a
phone
> > > problem in the house yesterday. Perhaps you are a little confused
since
> > this is the
> > > first you've heard of any of this.
> > >
> > > Well, it all started when I tried to get online to check my ATIS mail.
> For
> > > some reason the 'puter had no dial tone. After a brief investigation I
> > found
> > > that the kitchen and upstairs phone had an open line and no dial tone
> but
> > the
> > > living room phone worked fine. But, if I had one of the "dead" phones
> off
> > the
> > > hook and picked up the living room phone then both phones would work.
> > Well, I
> > > checked all the wires in the basement, reseated all the connections at
> the
> > > network interface, and still hadn't fixed the problem. I managed to
get
> > online and
> > > was chatting with fellow ATIS member Mike Maynard who jokingly
reminded
> me
> > of
> > > Farmer's mantra "check the grounds."
> > >
> > > Knowing good advice when I hear it, I ran outside and inspected the
> > telephone
> > > ground connection...boy, what a disaster! The telephone ground was
> > attached
> > > to the aluminum ground from the meter box to the ground post and the
> > connection
> > > was VERY corroded. Further investigation revealed the aluminum ground
> wire
> > > was completely corroded through where it came in contact with the
earth.
> I
> > > trimmed back the aluminum wire, cleaned all the connections and
> reattached
> > > everything. I also called an electrician friend to come and replace
the
> > FOOLISH
> > > aluminum ground wire from the meter box. Interestingly, I will now
need
> 2
> > separate
> > > grounds at least 6' apart to meet the new code.
> > >
> > > After all of this my phone problem still persisted. A call to the
phone
> > > company revealed that there is a problem somewhere in the line between
> my
> > house and
> > > the local office. I'm still amazed that they can diagnose a line
problem
> > from
> > > their computer. Thankfully everything was repaired today.
> > >
> > > So, a big thank you to Farmer..if it weren't for your consistent
advice
> I
> > > never would have found the potentially dangerous condition of my house
> > ground.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Karl
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