[AT] OT: Thank you Farmer

[George Willer]

Charlie,

That's always been my understanding of the NEC as well.  I'm guessing here,
but here's a way to have the cake and eat it too... If all grounds came to a
common point on one of the ground rods, and then a secondary connection tied
the two ground rods together, there would be no conflict.

George Willer

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "charlie hill" <chill8 at cox.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Thank you Farmer


> Karl,  Farmers check the ground advice is always a good!  Glad you found
> your problem.  I am curious about the new code requiring 2 grounds.  I'm
not
> arguing it because I don't know that much about electrical matters but I
> wish someone on the list would explain the logic of that if they know it.
>
> I have always been lead to believe that everything needed to go to a
common
> ground to prevent a situation where you have 2 different ground
potentials.
> It seems to me that 2 grounds 6 feet apart would be dangerous under the
> right conditions.  If some one understands this please explain.   I might
> need to hook a modem to my tractor some day.  grins.
>
> Charlie Hill
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> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 9:10 PM
> Subject: [AT] OT: Thank you Farmer
>
>
> > Farmer, thank you for all your help while I was troubleshooting a phone
> > problem in the house yesterday. Perhaps you are a little confused since
> this is the
> > first you've heard of any of this.
> >
> > Well, it all started when I tried to get online to check my ATIS mail.
For
> > some reason the 'puter had no dial tone. After a brief investigation I
> found
> > that the kitchen and upstairs phone had an open line and no dial tone
but
> the
> > living room phone worked fine. But, if I had one of the "dead" phones
off
> the
> > hook and picked up the living room phone then both phones would work.
> Well, I
> > checked all the wires in the basement, reseated all the connections at
the
> > network interface, and still hadn't fixed the problem. I managed to get
> online and
> > was chatting with fellow ATIS member Mike Maynard who jokingly reminded
me
> of
> > Farmer's mantra "check the grounds."
> >
> > Knowing good advice when I hear it, I ran outside and inspected the
> telephone
> > ground connection...boy, what a disaster! The telephone ground was
> attached
> > to the aluminum ground from the meter box to the ground post and the
> connection
> > was VERY corroded. Further investigation revealed the aluminum ground
wire
> > was completely corroded through where it came in contact with the earth.
I
> > trimmed back the aluminum wire, cleaned all the connections and
reattached
> > everything. I also called an electrician friend to come and replace the
> FOOLISH
> > aluminum ground wire from the meter box. Interestingly, I will now need
2
> separate
> > grounds at least 6' apart to meet the new code.
> >
> > After all of this my phone problem still persisted. A call to the phone
> > company revealed that there is a problem somewhere in the line between
my
> house and
> > the local office. I'm still amazed that they can diagnose a line problem
> from
> > their computer. Thankfully everything was repaired today.
> >
> > So, a big thank you to Farmer..if it weren't for your consistent advice
I
> > never would have found the potentially dangerous condition of my house
> ground.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Karl
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