[AT] 12,000 lb winches

[drgerber]

Dean: forgot to add that I mounted the winch about 20" about the bed level 
in the front of the trailer; 24' trailer; did some cave man fabricating, 
litely a little overbuilt w gussets, etc. It has server me well.
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Dean VP wrote:
Since my accident I am unable to turn my head to the rear nearly as much as 
I was able to in the past which wasn't all that good before as I've gotten 
older. But,,,, I still want to load tractors on my 20' tilt 10,400 lb GVW 
equipment trailer but in a little safer way than before. I tend to load 
tractors on backwards so I can get more weight on the tongue since JD Two 
Cylinder tractors have about 70% of their total weight on the rear axle. My 
heaviest Two Cylinder is a JD 720 LP Standard which weighs close to 8000 
lbs. So... my idea is to get a 12,000 lb Winch mounted to the very front of 
the tilt bed and winch tractors on rather than back them on. My thinking is 
to have a cordless remote so I could sit in the seat of the tractor while 
it is being pulled on so I could steer a bit if necessary. I do have 
removable fenders and the bed is 102" wide through the whole 20' except 
between the tires so I don't have to be perfectly centered. Now thinking of 
Winches i have decided that even though my heaviest tractor is 8000 lbs I 
will be pulling up a slope so I need the extra pulling capacity and I want 
the extra capacity to get a better duty cycle. If one looks at the specs of 
various winches Duty Cycle is not even mentioned or conveniently hidden but 
if one digs deep enough you will find worrying specs of winching 45 seconds 
under full load and then have to wait 15 minutes. That is not compatible 
with my needs. Especially when typical winching speeds of 20 FPM are 
applied to a 20'
trailer. Initial looks at some higher priced winches gets better Duty 
Cycles that appear to be acceptable. Then the winch specs are based on 
which level the tow cable or rope is at which gets really confusing. I am 
leaning toward getting a rope as opposed to a steel cable just simply 
because how nasty steel cables can be. If necessary, I'm willing to replace 
the rope occasionally if it wears out. I'm thinking of using a steel plate 
that has a right angle that wraps around the front end of the bed frame 
bolted in and then bolt the winch and plate though the bed. I haven't found 
a commercial plate that does that so may have to fabricate one. But given 
all those parameters, I am interested in what ATIS members have found to 
work for them. Or whatever brands are suggested for Winches and 
recommendations on how to mount the winch on the bed of the trailer. I 
don't want to spend more than necessary but I also realize I can't lowball 
this. .Any comments, suggestions and help will be appreciated. 

Since my accident I am unable to turn my head to the rear nearly as much as 
I was able to in the past which wasn't all that good before as I've gotten 
older. But,,,, I still want to load tractors on my 20' tilt 10,400 lb GVW 
equipment trailer but in a little safer way than before. I tend to load 
tractors on backwards so I can get more weight on the tongue since JD Two 
Cylinder tractors have about 70% of their total weight on the rear axle. My 
heaviest Two Cylinder is a JD 720 LP Standard which weighs close to 8000 
lbs. So... my idea is to get a 12,000 lb Winch mounted to the very front of 
the tilt bed and winch tractors on rather than back them on. My thinking is 
to have a cordless remote so I could sit in the seat of the tractor while 
it is being pulled on so I could steer a bit if necessary. I do have 
removable fenders and the bed is 102" wide through the whole 20' except 
between the tires so I don't have to be perfectly centered. Now thinking of 
Winches i have decided that even though my heaviest tractor is 8000 lbs I 
will be pulling up a slope so I need the extra pulling capacity and I want 
the extra capacity to get a better duty cycle. If one looks at the specs of 
various winches Duty Cycle is not even mentioned or conveniently hidden but 
if one digs deep enough you will find worrying specs of winching 45 seconds 
under full load and then have to wait 15 minutes. That is not compatible 
with my needs. Especially when typical winching speeds of 20 FPM are 
applied to a 20'
trailer. Initial looks at some higher priced winches gets better Duty 
Cycles that appear to be acceptable. Then the winch specs are based on 
which level the tow cable or rope is at which gets really confusing. I am 
leaning toward getting a rope as opposed to a steel cable just simply 
because how nasty steel cables can be. If necessary, I'm willing to replace 
the rope occasionally if it wears out. I'm thinking of using a steel plate 
that has a right angle that wraps around the front end of the bed frame 
bolted in and then bolt the winch and plate though the bed. I haven't found 
a commercial plate that does that so may have to fabricate one. But given 
all those parameters, I am interested in what ATIS members have found to 
work for them. Or whatever brands are suggested for Winches and 
recommendations on how to mount the winch on the bed of the trailer. I 
don't want to spend more than necessary but I also realize I can't lowball 
this. .Any comments, suggestions and help will be appreciated. 

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