[AT] New Case/IH 5088

[Cecil Bearden]

I have tried to research different oils online, and it appears that the 
Chinese oil company is pushing Sinopec.  While I have several buckets of 
their 2 stroke Detroit diesel oil, I am not prepared to use their oil in 
my Caterpillar and other engines nor in my expensive tractor 
transmissions.    I have used Wix filters for over 50 years.  My New 
Holland TS110 has to have New Holland filters or it whines so bad you 
cannot stay in the cab.   When I first changed the 
transmission/hydraulic oil in the  TS110, I could save $10/bucket by 
buying Mystic and I was not too happy with the local NH dealer.  Within 
an hour of use the TS110 started making a noise like a solenoid chatter 
when reversing the reverse shifter, an even sometimes not engaging 
reverse.  It still does this after 5 years of use.  I don't know if the 
oil and filters made the problem or not, but it is a $6000 job to go 
through the transmission.   As I said before I never thought I would 
have to take out a loan to change oil in a tractor!!!!

Cecil

On 7/21/2022 11:49 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:
> Since it appears your savings is in $250-$500 range I do appreciate your decision to forego the savings for peace of mind.   I’ve certainly made that decision myself tho not at this scale.
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>> On Jul 22, 2022, at 12:30 AM, Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net> wrote:
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>> Spencer, I was ready to use Mystic like I have in the past as it is about $75/ 5 gallons,  and cheaper in a drum.  However, I still need to split my big Belarus tractor and have 2 that are needing to be put back together, so actually splitting one and repairing it might take years if needed, so time wise I probably should use the Hytran and not take the chance on having to repair the TA...
>> Cecil
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>>> On 7/21/2022 11:20 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:
>>> Having dealt with this a few times before from  everything from a small little hydrostatic cub cadet riding lawnmower to some bigger tractors I can tell you that everything, everybody, and all sources of information are purely anecdotal evidence. I cannot find anybody that can tell me with a straight face that they’ve actually done the experiment, have the data and conclusively prove that you must use HyTran or that it’s OK to use something else.
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>>> I feel for you. My decision was always a $20-$50 decision and I always wimped out and used HyTran.  At over $1K I’d be willing to do the experiment with the cheaper fluids.
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>>> Spencer Yost
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>>>>> On Jul 21, 2022, at 10:56 PM, Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net> wrote:
>>>> If I have asked this here earlier, my apologies.  Sometimes the thread gets hijacked into other areas and the original question is lost.   Right now this 104+ heat wave is kicking my butt, and I only have enough time to read emails, feed the cattle, check cattle for summer pneumonia,  find a source for hay, and figure out how to stay cool.
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>>>> I recently picked up a IH 5088 2wd from a neighbor. Tractor was setting for several years until he got motivated to sell. In the last couple of months he changed the transmission oil and filters replacing the oil with Tractor Supply Transdraulic fluid. I have read several postings in the Red Tractor forums regarding oil for IH tractors and everyone says to use only Hytran in IH tractors. This tractor takes 43 gallons and manual recommends adding another 5 if working on slopes, or after changing the suction filter as there is a spot that might suck air.. The Case/IH dealer has Hytran for $115/5gal bucket. That works out to $1150 for an oil change. I don't expect to use this tractor under a full load at all and I don't believe I will be shifting up and down to use the Torque Amplifier much. It will be used on a 15ft Bat Wing mower and a 1500 gallon sprayer. I have used Mystic oils exclusively for 50 years, until Mystic's latest price increase. I have laid in a supply of Rotella T4 until things calm down with Diesel oils. I am sure there is a slight price break if i get the Hytran in a 55 gal drum, but having to take out a short term loan to change oil in a tractor is ridiculous. I would appreciate any help here if there is a less pricey equivalent.
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>>>> Cecil
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