[AT] Pasture drag, rake, ???
Mike M
meulenms at gmx.com
Fri May 7 19:51:31 PDT 2021
Hey Dean, I think people call different implements by different names
around the country. I have always called this implement just a disc, no
spinning blades. This implement would loosen the soil and then a drag
would put a polish in it. I use extra railroad ties for weight, they are
very heavy. It will still flex, but gives it more digging power. It will
still bounce over the rocks. We live in a very rocky area, and the only
time I've rocks pulled up is with an Ag sized tractors. I've had my drag
for 10 years now, and I think you wouldn't be satisfied, depending on
your soil type. Option #2 do you have any people around you that cut
hay? I used to cut about 10 acres with a bush hog. Found a guy with a
cattle operation, and he came in, worked it up, got rid of the rocks
and hayed it. Gave it to him for free, for doing the work, and I saved
hours, and the hay went to good use.
https://youtu.be/vsc6coGeB7s
Mike M
On 5/7/2021 5:55 PM, Dean VP wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> Thx for the feedback. How and where do you place the weight on
> something that is so flexible.? IMHO a disc harrow is out of the
> question due to how many rocks it would dig up. I may have an
> impossible objective. Level and smooth the surface but don’t disturb
> the rocks. At least don’t bring the bigger ones to the surface. Rocks
> and spinning mower blades are not compatible.
>
> Dean VP
>
> Snohomish, WA 98290
>
> "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and
> gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
>
> ..Winston Churchill...
>
> *From:* AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com> *On Behalf Of *Mike M
> *Sent:* Friday, May 7, 2021 12:47 PM
> *To:* at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AT] Pasture drag, rake, ???
>
> Hi Dean,
> I have a 6x8 version of the exact drag you posted. . I've used it to
> smooth my gravel driveway, I've used it to smooth our sand arena, and
> our paddock and round pen. There were times I had add weight, 200 to
> 300 lbs so it would deeper. For the paddock and round pen, I did not
> need the weight and I could pull it with my garden tractor, although
> it worked the crap out of it.For the sand arena I needed 4x4 because
> of depth of the sand. Depending on your soil type it may work, but
> their is no guarantee. IMHO a disc harrow would be better.
>
> Mike M
>
> On 5/7/2021 6:32 AM, Dean VP wrote:
>
> What do you guys think of this unit from Tractor Supply at $259
> and then attaching a 4’ heavy plow beam section at the tail end to
> create more down pressure due to added tension and smooth things
> out a bit after the teeth do their job? I would then just drag
> this behind the Garden Tractor when I mowed. I don’t think the
> drag rake by itself would do the job but adding the heavy plow
> beam at the tail end might help quite a bit. A longer tow chain
> might reduce the tendency to lift the front of the drag harrow
> too. Worst case one could add weight on top but I don’t see how
> that weight gets distributed very well with a chain drag. See URL
> Link below:
>
> https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/yard-tuff-4-ft-x-4-ft-heavy-duty-drag-harrow
>
> This can be purchased elsewhere for $239 but then $70 to $80
> freight is added. At $259 at TSC is gets delivered to the store.
> That is only 7 ½ miles away for me. Haven’t found anything that
> beats that yet.
>
> PS, I was thinking of pulling my water filled barrel roller behind
> this to push the loosened rock back into the ground but that is
> too heavy and cumbersome I think 😊 And would not work very good
> going down hill. 😊
>
> Dean VP
>
> Snohomish, WA 98290
>
> "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and
> gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
>
> ..Winston Churchill...
>
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> *Subject:* Re: [AT] Pasture drag, rake, ???
>
> One thing there is no shortage of here is tractors. They range
> from Garden Tractors, to Compact Tractors to a 720 Diesel John
> Deere. I do have about a 12’ section of pretty heavy channel iron
> that I use to level dirt but since it is ridged I don’t think it
> would work very good in the pasture, but I suppose if I went in
> enough directions it might get most of the mounds. Maybe I could
> just drag it behind the Garden Tractor every time I mow. I don’t
> see how it could make things worse. Hmmm, I’m starting to warm
> up to this idea. Maybe I could attach some weights to it too.
> Need to see if the messes up the mowing that the channel iron has
> been drug over before I get to mowing it. Wonder if there is a
> way to offset it. Hmmmm, this could get intelesting. May not work
> if it drags the loose clippings too much. What if I just drug a
> heavy beam the width of the mower deck. That would at least knock
> down the Mole and Pocket Gopher mounds a bit. At least doing it
> the same time I mow would eliminate duplicate trips over the
> field. Intelesting. Could drag a drag a 4’ wide 8’ long section
> drag harrow behind while mowing too. Need to have something that
> weighs enough to not bounce around on top.
>
> Dean VP
>
> Snohomish, WA 98290
>
> "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and
> gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
>
> ..Winston Churchill...
>
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> <mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com>>; Mark Johnson
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> *Subject:* Re: [AT] Pasture drag, rake, ???
>
> You likely do not a big enough tractor. This what we did when we
> moved a house across the hay meadow in winter.
>
> We were left with deep ruts. The truck bogged down for two weeks.
> Finally got truck and house out in on the pad.
>
> We had huge massy Ferguson tractor and a 30 foot length of heavy
> railroad rail with a loop of heavy chain welded to both ends.
> Hooked the tractor to the center of the chain and drug it over the
> ruts.
>
> It filled the ruts and leveled it flat as a board.
>
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> On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 6:59 AM, Mark Johnson
>
> <markjohnson100 at centurylink.net
> <mailto:markjohnson100 at centurylink.net>> wrote:
>
> That one looks very similar to the one I spent many an hour
> dragging
> around the farm as a teenager - ours resembled two of these
> (12' wide)
> ganged together. My dad believed it did an adequate job...
>
> Mark J
>
> On 5/4/2021 11:39 PM, Dean VP wrote:
> > Here is one that looks interesting. Not sure if it has
> adequate pin density
> >
> >
> https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/loyal-drag-harrow-6-ft-x-8-ft
> >
> >
> > Dean VP
> > Snohomish, WA 98290
> > "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of
> ignorance, and gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the
> equal sharing of misery."
> > ..Winston Churchill...
> >
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> Dean VP
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 9:18 PM
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> > Subject: Re: [AT] Pasture drag, rake, ???
> >
> > Spencer,
> >
> > That is it. Drag or chain harrow is the name that seems to
> work here too. Haven't found a single used one for sale yet.
> Tractor Supply and Northern Tool have some that might be worth
> looking at. I wonder if the rental yards have them. That
> would be a way to test to see how it works before purchasing.
> >
> > Dean VP
> > Snohomish, WA 98290
> > "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of
> ignorance, and gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the
> equal sharing of misery."
> > ..Winston Churchill...
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> <mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com>> On Behalf Of
> Spencer Yost
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 4:05 PM
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> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com
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> > Subject: Re: [AT] Pasture drag, rake, ???
> >
> > Drag harrow is what I think they’re called mainly around the
> country. I hear “chain harrow” around here more frequently.
> It’s probably your only option if you’re trying your best not
> to disturb more than an inch or two down and also not kill
> half your grass.
> >
> > I can’t even think of anything else that would do the job
> yet also leave stones unturned.
> >
> > I use it after disking to create a better seed bed and also
> in my pasture to de-thatch and scarify the surface after
> plugging but before fertilizing, seeding and spreading compost.
> >
> > PS: this is the type of implement that people often buy for
> a single reseeding project and then resell. I’ll bet some
> chain harrows have had dozens of owners. So check Craigslist.
> >
> > Spencer
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On May 4, 2021, at 6:33 PM, Dean VP <deanvp at att.net
> <mailto:deanvp at att.net>> wrote:
> >>
> >> I have 6 acres that I mow with my Garden tractor 3 of
> which is a
> >> pasture on a slope which at one time had horses on it. Now
> I try to
> >> keep the pasture looking nice by mowing it with my Garden
> Tractor
> >> albeit at a slightly higher cut than the rest of the
> regular lawn. The
> >> last couple of years the pasture has gotten really rough
> from multiple
> >> sources including our not so friendly Moles and pocket
> gophers. There
> >> are several old growth stumps buried in the pasture which
> was well
> >> done except will the dirt fill occurs it doesn't completely
> fill all
> >> around the stump down below. So over time and our incessant
> rain some
> >> settling occurs and even some small occur. I try to fill
> the gaps
> >> with dirt as I find them but each year 2 or 3 more show up.
> So bottom
> >> line is the pasture has gotten rough and beats the crap out
> of me when I mow it. I would like to use a tool to try to
> smooth it out a bit and
> >> thatching the grass mat in places would not be a bad
> thing. But our soil
> >> is terrible and at best could described as glacial till
> filled with various
> >> sized rocks. So I really don't want to disturb the rocks
> too much since I
> >> have to mow it later. So I want to smooth the soil out,
> not disturb it too
> >> much. Known as a quandary.
> >>
> >> I'm thinking about acquiring pasture rake or drag with
> short teeth on
> >> it to work the top couple inches or so and try to smooth
> out the mole and gopher
> >> mounds which I have manually knocked down a bit prior to
> mowing, I have no
> >> experience with a pasture type rake. I have experience
> with a spiked
> >> toothed drag we used on the farm in NW Iowa. But that was
> used to
> >> smooth out loose ground in preparation for planting corn
> or soy
> >> beans. That isn't what I need. I think I need maybe 4 4' square
> >> flexible sections that can flex with the varying terrain
> and catch the
> >> low as well as high spots. I think I can pull an 8' 8' unit
> with my 20
> >> to 22 HP Garden tractors. I'm more concerned about traction
> but I can
> >> put chains on if necessary. I'm thinking I would want to
> take several
> >> passes at various different directions. And hopefully I
> could use this same implement to dethatch the rest of the lawn.
> >>
> >> Some of you surely have experience with something like what
> I need.
> >> What do I need? What are it's critical attributes? Where
> do I buy it?
> >> I do live in Horse country so there are a few stores that
> cater to
> >> horse owners and of course I have Tractor Supply, Lowes,
> Home Dept,
> >> Grainger, etc. and ???/
> >>
> >> I'm looking forward to being educated.
> >>
> >> Dean VP
> >> Snohomish, WA 98290
> >> "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of
> ignorance, and
> >> gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of
> misery."
> >> ..Winston Churchill...
> >>
> >>
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