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Hey Dean, I think people call different implements by different
names around the country. I have always called this implement just a
disc, no spinning blades. This implement would loosen the soil and
then a drag would put a polish in it. I use extra railroad ties for
weight, they are very heavy. It will still flex, but gives it more
digging power. It will still bounce over the rocks. We live in a
very rocky area, and the only time I've rocks pulled up is with an
Ag sized tractors. I've had my drag for 10 years now, and I think
you wouldn't be satisfied, depending on your soil type. Option #2 do
you have any people around you that cut hay? I used to cut about 10
acres with a bush hog. Found a guy with a cattle operation, and he
came in, worked it up, got rid of the rocks and hayed it. Gave it
to him for free, for doing the work, and I saved hours, and the hay
went to good use.<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://youtu.be/vsc6coGeB7s">https://youtu.be/vsc6coGeB7s</a><br>
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Mike M<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/7/2021 5:55 PM, Dean VP wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Mike,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thx for the feedback. How and where do you
place the weight on something that is so flexible.? IMHO a
disc harrow is out of the question due to how many rocks it
would dig up. I may have an impossible objective. Level and
smooth the surface but don’t disturb the rocks. At least don’t
bring the bigger ones to the surface. Rocks and spinning mower
blades are not compatible. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Snohomish, WA 98290<o:p></o:p></p>
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the creed of ignorance, and gospel of envy, its inherent
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi Dean,<br>
I have a 6x8 version of the exact drag you posted. . I've used
it to smooth my gravel driveway, I've used it to smooth our
sand arena, and our paddock and round pen. There were times I
had add weight, 200 to 300 lbs so it would deeper. For the
paddock and round pen, I did not need the weight and I could
pull it with my garden tractor, although it worked the crap
out of it.For the sand arena I needed 4x4 because of depth of
the sand. Depending on your soil type it may work, but their
is no guarantee. IMHO a disc harrow would be better.<br>
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Mike M<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What do you guys think of this unit from
Tractor Supply at $259 and then attaching a 4’ heavy plow
beam section at the tail end to create more down pressure
due to added tension and smooth things out a bit after the
teeth do their job? I would then just drag this behind the
Garden Tractor when I mowed. I don’t think the drag rake by
itself would do the job but adding the heavy plow beam at
the tail end might help quite a bit. A longer tow chain
might reduce the tendency to lift the front of the drag
harrow too. Worst case one could add weight on top but I
don’t see how that weight gets distributed very well with a
chain drag. See URL Link below:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a
href="https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/yard-tuff-4-ft-x-4-ft-heavy-duty-drag-harrow"
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<p class="MsoNormal">This can be purchased elsewhere for $239
but then $70 to $80 freight is added. At $259 at TSC is
gets delivered to the store. That is only 7 ½ miles away for
me. Haven’t found anything that beats that yet.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">PS, I was thinking of pulling my water
filled barrel roller behind this to push the loosened rock
back into the ground but that is too heavy and cumbersome I
think <span style="font-family:"Segoe UI
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good going down hill. <span style="font-family:"Segoe
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the creed of ignorance, and gospel of envy, its inherent
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<p class="MsoNormal">One thing there is no shortage of here is
tractors. They range from Garden Tractors, to Compact
Tractors to a 720 Diesel John Deere. I do have about a 12’
section of pretty heavy channel iron that I use to level
dirt but since it is ridged I don’t think it would work very
good in the pasture, but I suppose if I went in enough
directions it might get most of the mounds. Maybe I could
just drag it behind the Garden Tractor every time I mow. I
don’t see how it could make things worse. Hmmm, I’m
starting to warm up to this idea. Maybe I could attach some
weights to it too. Need to see if the messes up the mowing
that the channel iron has been drug over before I get to
mowing it. Wonder if there is a way to offset it. Hmmmm,
this could get intelesting. May not work if it drags the
loose clippings too much. What if I just drug a heavy beam
the width of the mower deck. That would at least knock down
the Mole and Pocket Gopher mounds a bit. At least doing it
the same time I mow would eliminate duplicate trips over the
field. Intelesting. Could drag a drag a 4’ wide 8’ long
section drag harrow behind while mowing too. Need to have
something that weighs enough to not bounce around on top.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Snohomish, WA 98290<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
the creed of ignorance, and gospel of envy, its inherent
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<p class="MsoNormal">You likely do not a big enough tractor.
This what we did when we moved a house across the hay meadow
in winter.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We were left with deep ruts. The truck
bogged down for two weeks. Finally got truck and house out
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<p class="MsoNormal">We had huge massy Ferguson tractor and
a 30 foot length of heavy railroad rail with a loop of
heavy chain welded to both ends. Hooked the tractor to
the center of the chain and drug it over the ruts.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That one looks very similar to the
one I spent many an hour dragging <br>
around the farm as a teenager - ours resembled two of
these (12' wide) <br>
ganged together. My dad believed it did an adequate
job...<br>
<br>
Mark J<br>
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On 5/4/2021 11:39 PM, Dean VP wrote:<br>
> Here is one that looks interesting. Not sure if
it has adequate pin density<br>
><br>
> <a
href="https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/loyal-drag-harrow-6-ft-x-8-ft"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/loyal-drag-harrow-6-ft-x-8-ft</a><br>
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> Dean VP<br>
> Snohomish, WA 98290<br>
> "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed
of ignorance, and gospel of envy, its inherent virtue
is the equal sharing of misery."<br>
> ..Winston Churchill...<br>
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> Subject: Re: [AT] Pasture drag, rake, ???<br>
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> Spencer,<br>
><br>
> That is it. Drag or chain harrow is the name that
seems to work here too. Haven't found a single used
one for sale yet. Tractor Supply and Northern Tool
have some that might be worth looking at. I wonder if
the rental yards have them. That would be a way to
test to see how it works before purchasing.<br>
><br>
> Dean VP<br>
> Snohomish, WA 98290<br>
> "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed
of ignorance, and gospel of envy, its inherent virtue
is the equal sharing of misery."<br>
> ..Winston Churchill...<br>
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> Subject: Re: [AT] Pasture drag, rake, ???<br>
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> Drag harrow is what I think they’re called mainly
around the country. I hear “chain harrow” around here
more frequently. It’s probably your only option if
you’re trying your best not to disturb more than an
inch or two down and also not kill half your grass.<br>
><br>
> I can’t even think of anything else that would do
the job yet also leave stones unturned.<br>
><br>
> I use it after disking to create a better seed
bed and also in my pasture to de-thatch and scarify
the surface after plugging but before fertilizing,
seeding and spreading compost.<br>
><br>
> PS: this is the type of implement that people
often buy for a single reseeding project and then
resell. I’ll bet some chain harrows have had dozens
of owners. So check Craigslist.<br>
><br>
> Spencer<br>
><br>
> Sent from my iPhone<br>
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>> On May 4, 2021, at 6:33 PM, Dean VP <<a
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>> I have 6 acres that I mow with my Garden
tractor 3 of which is a<br>
>> pasture on a slope which at one time had
horses on it. Now I try to<br>
>> keep the pasture looking nice by mowing it
with my Garden Tractor<br>
>> albeit at a slightly higher cut than the rest
of the regular lawn. The<br>
>> last couple of years the pasture has gotten
really rough from multiple<br>
>> sources including our not so friendly Moles
and pocket gophers. There<br>
>> are several old growth stumps buried in the
pasture which was well<br>
>> done except will the dirt fill occurs it
doesn't completely fill all<br>
>> around the stump down below. So over time and
our incessant rain some<br>
>> settling occurs and even some small occur. I
try to fill the gaps<br>
>> with dirt as I find them but each year 2 or 3
more show up. So bottom<br>
>> line is the pasture has gotten rough and
beats the crap out of me when I mow it. I would like
to use a tool to try to smooth it out a bit and<br>
>> thatching the grass mat in places would not
be a bad thing. But our soil<br>
>> is terrible and at best could described as
glacial till filled with various<br>
>> sized rocks. So I really don't want to
disturb the rocks too much since I<br>
>> have to mow it later. So I want to smooth
the soil out, not disturb it too<br>
>> much. Known as a quandary.<br>
>><br>
>> I'm thinking about acquiring pasture rake or
drag with short teeth on<br>
>> it to work the top couple inches or so and
try to smooth out the mole and gopher<br>
>> mounds which I have manually knocked down a
bit prior to mowing, I have no<br>
>> experience with a pasture type rake. I have
experience with a spiked<br>
>> toothed drag we used on the farm in NW Iowa.
But that was used to<br>
>> smooth out loose ground in preparation for
planting corn or soy<br>
>> beans. That isn't what I need. I think I need
maybe 4 4' square<br>
>> flexible sections that can flex with the
varying terrain and catch the<br>
>> low as well as high spots. I think I can pull
an 8' 8' unit with my 20<br>
>> to 22 HP Garden tractors. I'm more concerned
about traction but I can<br>
>> put chains on if necessary. I'm thinking I
would want to take several<br>
>> passes at various different directions. And
hopefully I could use this same implement to dethatch
the rest of the lawn.<br>
>><br>
>> Some of you surely have experience with
something like what I need.<br>
>> What do I need? What are it's critical
attributes? Where do I buy it?<br>
>> I do live in Horse country so there are a few
stores that cater to<br>
>> horse owners and of course I have Tractor
Supply, Lowes, Home Dept,<br>
>> Grainger, etc. and ???/<br>
>><br>
>> I'm looking forward to being educated.<br>
>><br>
>> Dean VP<br>
>> Snohomish, WA 98290<br>
>> "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the
creed of ignorance, and<br>
>> gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the
equal sharing of misery."<br>
>> ..Winston Churchill...<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com">http://lists.antique-tractor.com/listinfo.cgi/at-antique-tractor.com</a>
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