[AT] Lawn mower carburetors are a piece of cake..... Wrong--NOW Battery Power

Mon Jun 14 06:37:34 PDT 2021

Dean,
Harbor Freight has a 1200 lb battery powered impact wrench that is about $225 and works extremely well. A friend has one and has helped me on a few projects with it. WOW is all I can say! I highly recommend it. It works where my electric one won't. I just replaced all of the support mechanism on my trailer undercarriage and couldn't touch the rusted bolts and nuts, even with a 36" breaker bar. The HF wrench broke every one of them loose and not one of them twisted off. I do agree that the shocking of the impact wrench helps to break them loose without breakage.

Mitch
md31043 at msn.com

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From: AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com> on behalf of Dean VP <deanvp at att.net>
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The few battery operated devices that I have are slowly being upgrade to lithium batteries. They have been the east troublesome. Don’t seem to develop a reduction in charging capability over time and are much quicker to charge.  I have been reluctant to switch over to battery powered devices completely but with the advent of Lithium Ion the hand writing is on the wall.   There is one particular hand held device that I covet all the time and only the $400 cost holds me back. It would be nice to own but $400 plus….  I just can’t seem to get my credit card out yet. It is a Battery Powered impact wrench made by Milwaukee that has 1400 ft lbs. of reverse nut breaking force. Just think how many bigger bolts I could twist off with that. But in my limited experience my current  IR air driven impact wrench has twisted off way less bolts than my breaker bar has. I don’t remember what that reverse torque spec is right now.  I can set the level of torque on the tightening side but not on the reverse side. I think the shocking of the impact wrench reduces damage considerably.

Dean VP

Snohomish, WA 98290

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."

..Winston Churchill...

From: AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com> On Behalf Of Bill Brueck
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 9:36 PM
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I’ve had excellent results by having battery packs rebuilt.  The local franchise for consumer batteries and such was Batteries Plus, I think they changed the name to Batteries and Bulbs or something like that.  Just leave it and pick it up a couple of days later with new batteries inside.  Half or less of the cost of new batteries.

Sometimes the pack is constructed such that it can’t be taken apart and they can’t do those.

They also sell lawn mower batteries but the price is quite a bit higher than the same battery at the local farm supply franchise…Fleet Farm in my neck of the woods, but I know that’s regional.

I’ve also bought some of the cheap aftermarket batteries on eBay.  These have not been satisfactory.  If they work at all, they haven’t lasted long.

B²

Bill Brueck

   Pine Island, MN USA

From: AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com<mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com>> On Behalf Of Brad Loomis
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Subject: Re: [AT] Lawn mower carburetors are a piece of cake..... Wrong--NOW Battery Power

I believe most  if not all newer LI tool battery chargers limit the amount of 'charging' they do to prevent over charging, battery degradation, etc. People get PO'ed when they have to drop a hun and a half on a battery. Granted they still go bad, but not like the Mikcheepas of old. I have a fair amount of Milwaukee 28V tools that I still use today. I've had to replace two batteries and at pushing $200 a pop I may not get anymore. I'm too old to invest in an entire stable of new 12, 18, or whatever volt tools. Mine serve their purpose. However if I were 20 years younger then I would definitely invest in new, red tools. We have a few at work that are really nice. That 18V transfer pump is terrific. These days if I need something I'm probably going to get pneumatic or corded. They are way less money as a general rule.

Brad

On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 7:23 PM szabelski at wildblue.net<mailto:szabelski at wildblue.net> <szabelski at wildblue.net<mailto:szabelski at wildblue.net>> wrote:

No. A battery tender doesn’t’t act like a battery charger. A battery charger will do one of two things, depending on how it’s designed. One will put out a constant voltage which isn’t the best thing for a battery since you can over charge the battery if left on too long. The other will charge the battery and when it’s near full charge, will drop down to a trickle charge to top off the battery. But again you shouldn’t leave it on indefinitely.

On the other, hand a battery tender will automatically shut off when it senses that the battery is fully charged.

Carl

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Carl, is the same true for a battery tender? I leave all my machinery
plugged into them all winter long.

Mike M

On 6/13/2021 6:43 PM, szabelski at wildblue.net<mailto:szabelski at wildblue.net> wrote:
> Maintaining batteries can be a hassle. At some point they will start to not take a full charge and need to be replaced. They build up internal “shorts” (part of their internal chemical process) from normal use that start to diminish their ability to be recharged. You can go on YouTube and find videos on how to reverse change them using a welder or other high current source. I’ve done it a few times with some success. Also you shouldn’t plug a battery into a charger and let it sit there forever, you wind up sorta putting a reverse charge on the battery and it won’t fully charge anymore. You shouldn’t drain a battery down to nothing either, it also degrades the battery and the charger more than likely doesn’t have the ability to fully resurrect a totally dead battery. My latest drill will stop running at a point where the battery is still partially charged. If I have one more screw to put in, it will work for a few more turns with each trigger pull, but will not run continuously. You can also go on YouTube and find videos that will show you how to rebuild a battery using a set of equivalent batteries. Takes some soldering and knowledge of wiring them correctly.
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> Carl
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> Thanks to everyone who responded to my query!
>
> As I was helping my son do some finishing work on a bathroom remodel today, another question occurred to me:  do the batteries on trimmers and such hold a charge?
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> Between my son and me, we have three or four battery-powered drills/drivers.  None is commercial grade, but none was cheap, either.  But none of the batteries ever holds a charge (so my son resorted to a corded drill).
>
> If I have an opportunity to work, I can't first plug the charger in for four hours (or more) to get a working battery before getting started:  I need to take advantage of my opportunities.  With a gas trimmer, I go out, crank it, and go to work.  Will I be able to do that with a battery-powered one?
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> The "original" Steve Allen
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