[AT] Lawn mower carburetors are a piece of cake..... Wrong--NOW Battery Power
Cecil Bearden
crbearden at copper.net
Mon Jun 14 05:24:11 PDT 2021
Dean:
My first battery impact wrench was a 28V Milwaukee 15 years ago.. The
batteries lasted less than 2 years. replacements were a small fortune
when I priced them and here were no aftermarket. I bought one of those
Dewalt 18V deals with the 1/2 impact and the 1/2 hammer drill and a free
Sawzall with batteries and charger. Later I added the 3/8 impact, then
the Metal cutting circular saw, and later the handiest of all the 4-1/2
in grinder. I later found a wood cutting circular saw, Then along came
the 20v to 18v adapters. Last of all I found the Dewalt high torque
Impact with over 1000 ft lbs of torque in 20V for less than $300, and a
Dewalt 20V grease gun with 10,000 PSI. I lusted after Milwaukee back
during my early years and always tried to get them used at auctions and
garage sales. The last 20 years of Milwaukee tools I find are
overpriced and over hyped. I do have a cordless Milwaukee Dremel tool
and soldering Iron.
I bought a couple of aftermarket 28V batteries for the old Milwaukee
impact, and have yet to use it. I reach for my Dewalt ones.
Cecil
On 6/14/2021 2:47 AM, Dean VP wrote:
>
> The few battery operated devices that I have are slowly being upgrade
> to lithium batteries. They have been the east troublesome. Don’t seem
> to develop a reduction in charging capability over time and are much
> quicker to charge. I have been reluctant to switch over to battery
> powered devices completely but with the advent of Lithium Ion the hand
> writing is on the wall. There is one particular hand held device
> that I covet all the time and only the $400 cost holds me back. It
> would be nice to own but $400 plus…. I just can’t seem to get my
> credit card out yet. It is a Battery Powered impact wrench made by
> Milwaukee that has 1400 ft lbs. of reverse nut breaking force. Just
> think how many bigger bolts I could twist off with that. But in my
> limited experience my current IR air driven impact wrench has twisted
> off way less bolts than my breaker bar has. I don’t remember what that
> reverse torque spec is right now. I can set the level of torque on
> the tightening side but not on the reverse side. I think the shocking
> of the impact wrench reduces damage considerably.
>
> Dean VP
>
> Snohomish, WA 98290
>
> "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and
> gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
>
> ..Winston Churchill...
>
> *From:* AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill
> Brueck
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 13, 2021 9:36 PM
> *To:* Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AT] Lawn mower carburetors are a piece of cake.....
> Wrong--NOW Battery Power
>
> I’ve had excellent results by having battery packs rebuilt. The local
> franchise for consumer batteries and such was Batteries Plus, I think
> they changed the name to Batteries and Bulbs or something like that.
> Just leave it and pick it up a couple of days later with new batteries
> inside. Half or less of the cost of new batteries.
>
> Sometimes the pack is constructed such that it can’t be taken apart
> and they can’t do those.
>
> They also sell lawn mower batteries but the price is quite a bit
> higher than the same battery at the local farm supply franchise…Fleet
> Farm in my neck of the woods, but I know that’s regional.
>
> I’ve also bought some of the cheap aftermarket batteries on eBay.
> These have not been satisfactory. If they work at all, they haven’t
> lasted long.
>
> B²
>
> Bill Brueck
>
> Pine Island, MN USA
>
> *From:* AT <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> <mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com>> *On Behalf Of *Brad Loomis
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 13, 2021 10:14 PM
> *To:* Antique Tractor Email Discussion Group
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com <mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com>>
> *Subject:* Re: [AT] Lawn mower carburetors are a piece of cake.....
> Wrong--NOW Battery Power
>
> I believe most if not all newer LI tool battery chargers limit the
> amount of 'charging' they do to prevent over charging, battery
> degradation, etc. People get PO'ed when they have to drop a hun and a
> half on a battery. Granted they still go bad, but not like the
> Mikcheepas of old. I have a fair amount of Milwaukee 28V tools that I
> still use today. I've had to replace two batteries and at pushing $200
> a pop I may not get anymore. I'm too old to invest in an entire stable
> of new 12, 18, or whatever volt tools. Mine serve their purpose.
> However if I were 20 years younger then I would definitely invest in
> new, red tools. We have a few at work that are really nice. That 18V
> transfer pump is terrific. These days if I need something I'm probably
> going to get pneumatic or corded. They are way less money as a general
> rule.
>
> Brad
>
> On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 7:23 PM szabelski at wildblue.net
> <mailto:szabelski at wildblue.net> <szabelski at wildblue.net
> <mailto:szabelski at wildblue.net>> wrote:
>
> No. A battery tender doesn’t’t act like a battery charger. A
> battery charger will do one of two things, depending on how it’s
> designed. One will put out a constant voltage which isn’t the best
> thing for a battery since you can over charge the battery if left
> on too long. The other will charge the battery and when it’s near
> full charge, will drop down to a trickle charge to top off the
> battery. But again you shouldn’t leave it on indefinitely.
>
> On the other, hand a battery tender will automatically shut off
> when it senses that the battery is fully charged.
>
> Carl
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com <mailto:meulenms at gmx.com>>
> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com <mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Sun, 13 Jun 2021 19:20:54 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: [AT] Lawn mower carburetors are a piece of cake.....
> Wrong--NOW Battery Power
>
> Carl, is the same true for a battery tender? I leave all my machinery
> plugged into them all winter long.
>
> Mike M
>
> On 6/13/2021 6:43 PM, szabelski at wildblue.net
> <mailto:szabelski at wildblue.net> wrote:
> > Maintaining batteries can be a hassle. At some point they will
> start to not take a full charge and need to be replaced. They
> build up internal “shorts” (part of their internal chemical
> process) from normal use that start to diminish their ability to
> be recharged. You can go on YouTube and find videos on how to
> reverse change them using a welder or other high current source.
> I’ve done it a few times with some success. Also you shouldn’t
> plug a battery into a charger and let it sit there forever, you
> wind up sorta putting a reverse charge on the battery and it won’t
> fully charge anymore. You shouldn’t drain a battery down to
> nothing either, it also degrades the battery and the charger more
> than likely doesn’t have the ability to fully resurrect a totally
> dead battery. My latest drill will stop running at a point where
> the battery is still partially charged. If I have one more screw
> to put in, it will work for a few more turns with each trigger
> pull, but will not run continuously. You can also go on YouTube
> and find videos that will show you how to rebuild a battery using
> a set of equivalent batteries. Takes some soldering and knowledge
> of wiring them correctly.
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: STEVE ALLEN <steveallen855 at centurytel.net
> <mailto:steveallen855 at centurytel.net>>
> > To: at <at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> <mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com>>
> > Sent: Sun, 13 Jun 2021 16:19:22 -0400 (EDT)
> > Subject: Re: [AT] Lawn mower carburetors are a piece of
> cake..... Wrong--NOW Battery Power
> >
> >
> > Thanks to everyone who responded to my query!
> >
> > As I was helping my son do some finishing work on a bathroom
> remodel today, another question occurred to me: do the batteries
> on trimmers and such hold a charge?
> >
> > Between my son and me, we have three or four battery-powered
> drills/drivers. None is commercial grade, but none was cheap,
> either. But none of the batteries ever holds a charge (so my son
> resorted to a corded drill).
> >
> > If I have an opportunity to work, I can't first plug the charger
> in for four hours (or more) to get a working battery before
> getting started: I need to take advantage of my opportunities.
> With a gas trimmer, I go out, crank it, and go to work. Will I be
> able to do that with a battery-powered one?
> >
> > The "original" Steve Allen
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